KikkyMonk Posted May 18, 2001 Share Posted May 18, 2001 The following is an extreamly lame post brought to you by dave-- I am currently trying to figure out my bands budget for some PA gear. I dont want to forget anything so Im posting this as a sorta "what did I forget?" post. So far we got a mixer, some powered speakers, monitors and a power amp for them, good vocal mics, a compressor, a graphic EQ, a power conditioner, rackmount stand, lotsa cables, amps, an effects processor, and some odd nifty instruments. Anything I forget? Dave thanks and sorry about the dumb post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calfee Jones Posted May 18, 2001 Share Posted May 18, 2001 Looks good to me! - Calfee Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_powellpalmercay.com Posted May 18, 2001 Share Posted May 18, 2001 Somebody that knows how to use that stuff would be nice. Meaning, ideally, somebody who won't have to be performing at the same time. Some bands don't budget for their own sound guy and their sound usually reflects it. Clubs can be tricky to sound good in and if you make it sound good up on stage, well, invite the audience up on stage so it can sound good to them too. As for your gear list, sounds like you got a nice array. I myself have found little use for a compressor live, but others do (maybe on the vocals in the monitors). The EQ is probably the prime example of something you need a knowledgeable sound guy for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KikkyMonk Posted May 18, 2001 Author Share Posted May 18, 2001 Yeah I know what you mean. The compresser is going to be used mainly for our overzealous acoustic guitar player who tends to strum a bit too (read: WAY) too hard which results in gross noises. I have been reading books about live sound by the bucket load... about a book every two days and needless to say my amazon.com bill is huge. BUT in the end I would like to be the knowledgable sound guy except Im playing too.. (some things arn't perfect) I plan on using the graphic EQ to control feedback which is (hopfully) something I can tune before the show starts during sound check. I know that all my knowledge won't replace a nice sound guy but as a starting out band I think its about the only thing I can do without stressing the budget. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_powellpalmercay.com Posted May 18, 2001 Share Posted May 18, 2001 Dave, fair warning: "controlling" feedback with an EQ is a pipe dream. You cut one frequency and the adjacent ones start overloading. Your best bet is to experiment with speaker placement to minimize reflections into the mics. Use the EQ to cut rumble and mud in the mains or else just conservatively tame the likely feedback frequencies in the monitors. If you haven't Amazonned it yet, pick up the Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Handbook. Dat dere's da Bible! PS-Fire that dumass acoustic player! Less of course, you're doing said player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted May 18, 2001 Share Posted May 18, 2001 Mic stands & speaker stands. Very important stuff, unless you can get some nubile audience attendee to uh, hold your mic all night I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Poff Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 Controlling feedback with EQ is definitely not a pipe dream. It is a reality if you know what you are doing and have quality gear. A feedback processor would also help. These devices find the offending frequency, then notch it out with a very narrow filter (much smaller than a graphic eq). The result is alot more gain before feedback, and alot better sound because of the narrow filters. Ashley and Sabine, among others, make processors with feedback filters, graphic equalizers, delay, and compression all in one box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippie Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 Get a CD player, and play crappy songs between sets, it'll make you sound better when you come back on. -Hippie In two days, it won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curve Dominant Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 Get a circuit tester and test the outlets at the venue before you start plugging stuff into them. You'll be surprised how many will not be grounded or wired correctly. A Snapit® Correct is a few bucks, needs no batteries, and just plugs right into the outlet. Bring extra fuses for your amps. You never know. Eric Vincent (ASCAP) www.curvedominant.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawor Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 Bring plenty of Gaffa Tape and don't give it to no bastard! You will never see it again! Get to the gig early to give yourself plenty of time to become familiar with the setup. ie. power outlets etc. Unless you are staying put between soundcheck and the commencement of the gig take things like your mics and any other small/desireable things with you. There's nothing like coming back and find all your 58's and 57's gone! If using a DI box for keyboards, bass etc. make sure it has an earth lift switch. Always take a box of various audio adaptors, for instance XLR<>jack, jack<>RCA, etc. These always come in handy and can help you out of a bind. Have fun and remember that guitarists that set their Marshall stacks on 11, and won't turn down, have small dicks! Tell them that often... IN THE PRESENCE OF OTHERS!! "WARNING!" - this artificial fruit juice may contain traces of REAL FRUIT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duhduh Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 The EQ certainly will help with feedback! Very much! Remember to start with the EQ flat and try to take away offensive frequencies rather than add the pleasant ones. Also, make sure to sound check at FULL volume! A lot of times the club owner or day-bartender will bitch about the noise but you gotta do it! "Meat is the only thing you need beside beer! Big hunks of meat and BEER!!...Lots of freakin' BEER." "Hey, I'm not Jesus Christ, I can't turn water into wine. The best I can do is turn beer into urine." Zakk Wylde http://www.hepcnet.net/bbssmilies/super.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15_1_109.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoeditor1 Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 How do you plan to get the stuff from your vehicle to the room? Get a fold-up hand truck. Get bright tags to ID your stuff. Get insurance. Get long (power) extension cords. Get a tool kit and stock it. Mentioned b4 - get a plug in line tester. Most important, it's not life and death, get a real perspective on what you are doing, and how it fits into your big scheme of things. Drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiraga Posted May 19, 2001 Share Posted May 19, 2001 A shitload of roadies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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