dmt Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 In 4/4 time, 8th notes go "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and ". 16th notes are commonly counted "1 e and a, 2 e and a, 3 e and a, 4e and a". How 'both them 32nds?! I'm trying to move up to 32nd notes, but I'm not sure if the correct stick is coming down at the correct time. It's sad, but my my head starts to spin as soon as I try to work out the math and figure out which stick should be where at what time (single stroke roll). Any counting aids or other tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 1 e and a AND e and a 2 e and a AND e and a... A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I wouldn't concentrate on the conscious assignment of a "word/sound image" (if you follow) to match the pulse; just do the subdivisions of beat levels & try to achieve an unconscious feel. And start at slow speeds, then speed up (oh, you already knew that part?). I'm not a drummer per se but this type of problem counting rhythms at fast tempo affects all instrument players & the best suggestion is really to get your conscious mind out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_F_H_13 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I agree totally. It's too hard to count when you get to those kinds of subdivions, so I don't. Just try and feel it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Sometimes just feeling it out is too vague to determine a specific accent's place in time. A good example is Chameleon by Herbie Hancock. Where exactly do those last couple bass accents land? Counting lets you play them with newfound certainty and authority. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I didn't mean in my suggestion to skip the counting procedure---it's imperative that musicians be able to know what they're doing---but I do suggest that at some point one needs to be able to operate less self-consciously & without mentally breaking everything down, i.e., to perform on sort of "auto-pilot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I wouldn't be counting at the gig... it's a practice thing. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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