DrummerCafe Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 Awhile ago there was a thread discussing hi-hat placement in the drumkit. I said I would post a picture of my YAMAHA Recording Custom kit set-up, in which I use the YAMAHA Cable Hi-hat as my primary hi-hat. Here's a photo from a recent recording session I did. The complete kit is not shown, but it gives you an idea of my hi-hat placement. http://home.swbell.net/sondage/index_files/images/Kit01.jpg I sit so that my right leg is behind the kick drum, not my entire body. I am centered with the snare in the middle and my 10 inch tom is at the 12 O'clock position. The cable hi-hat is at the 11 O'clock position, raised and slightly tilted towards me (kind of difficult to see). My arms feel very relaxed when I play; my elbows are down at my side. This is nice in that I have plenty of room to my left for a secondary snare, mounted tom and my drumKAT when I need it. I really like this open, relaxed placement. http://home.swbell.net/sondage/index_files/images/Kit02.jpg I also use a X-Hat on the right, which is set at the same height and angle as the Primary (cable) Hi-Hat. In the photo above, the top cymbal of the X-Hat is missing because I was in the middle of changing out the cymbal as well as some crashes when I took the photo. ------------------ Bart Elliott http://bartelliott.com This message has been edited by Bartman on 09-14-2001 at 08:15 PM Drummer Cafe - community drum & percussion forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekDrums Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 How is the response on remote hi-hats? Is it alot different than a standard hi-hat stand? I have some X-hats on my right too (in a way, I just got my new ones last week and moved my older ones to the right, I have them mounted kinda strange because it was all I had to work with, but they are basically x-hats), but I'm thinking about eventually down the road adding remote hi-hats on my right. How much of a difference from regular stands is noticable in your experience? Thanks, Derek http://www.mp3.com/DustinDerek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerCafe Posted September 15, 2001 Author Share Posted September 15, 2001 Well, I think anyone who says that Cable Hi-Hats feel just like the "regular" hi-hats on a stand ... is not telling the truth. It takes a little getting used to for certain. I feel that I can do everything on the cable hi-hat that I can with the regular hi-hat stand, with the exception of foot splashes. The response is a little sluggish for this, but mostly the problem (for me) is the noisey foot pedal when I drop my heel to splash the hats. It works, but it's too noisey for recording. If I am playing a gig (ie. jazz or fusion) which might require some foot splashes ... I use my conventional hi-hat stand. From those that I have talked to, the Yamaha Cable Hi-hat is the smoothest on the market, but this could probably change very quickly since new products and improvements are being made on a regular basis. The Yamaha system beat out the DW system amongst my drumming colleagues. ------------------ Bart Elliott http://bartelliott.com Drummer Cafe - community drum & percussion forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix stein Posted September 17, 2001 Share Posted September 17, 2001 Pretty tight set up with nicey nice heads. You don't play a double pedal do you. That's cool. felix's band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerCafe Posted September 17, 2001 Author Share Posted September 17, 2001 I use a double pedal from time to time, but it's not set-up right now. To be Frank (but my real name is Bart), everything I need to do ... I do with a single pedal. Using the cable hi-hat sure makes it easy to place the double pedal. There are no stands to get in the way, etc. I also use several Gajate pedals for cowbell, wood block, tambourine, etc. Typically I don't use these in the studio, tracking all the percussion separately for more mix control. There have been times when I record everything at once for a particular vibe, especially when I create a freaked out set-up with unconventional instruments. Most producers like having the control of mixing in or taking out the percussion stuff. It just depends on the situation really; there are no hard/fast rules. ------------------ Bart Elliott http://bartelliott.com Drummer Cafe - community drum & percussion forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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