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I'm redoing my P-Clone. It has a alder body, maple neck with a rosewood fingerboard, and a top loading standard fender-style bridge.

 

I already have a set of TI Jazz Flats (finally came in last week after an almost 9 month wait) and I want to rewire it and replace the wimpy jack it came with. Maybe the pots too.

 

The biggest question I have at this point is pickups. I want passives and I've done a lot of looking around and I've come to these:

 

Bartolini - Bartolini 8S

 

DiMarzio - Will Power Middle

- Split P

- Model P

 

EMG - PHz

 

Fender - '62 American Vintage

 

Kent Armstrong - Hot VPB

 

Lindy Fralin - P-Bass

 

Norstrand - NP4

 

OBL - Precision Blade

 

Rio Grande - Muy Grande for P-Bass

- Vintage for P-Bass

 

Seymour Duncan - Antiquity

- Antiquity II

- SPB-1 Vintage

- SPB-2 Hot

- SPB-3 Quarter Pounder

 

I'm thinking about the DiMarzio Split P due to the blade style design as currently the stings don't quite line up right with the polepieces on the current pickups. However once I have it apart maybe that problem could be rectified. Also it's a humbucker so it should be quieter then the really buzzy unit that's in it now. I practice at home in a smallish room that also has a TV and two PC monitors in it.

 

Now a lot of these had tone ratings such as 8-5-6 (B-M-T)in the case of the Split P. The only thing is that I don't have a lot of experience with this kind of thing and while I know that I like a strong & tight bottom end and don't really know what I need in regards to the mids and highs. All I know is that the current pickups are too boomy with little else in relation to mids and highs.

 

I'm mainly thinking of this project for using in a band I'm playing with. We play blues dropped down a full step and maybe a little R&B for my own enjoyment too. The detuned blues is the main thing here though. I play fingerstyle with some thumb action. I never use a pick (I'm a total klutz with one :freak: ).

 

I also want to remove the ugly finish that's on it and redo it in olympic/vintage white or leave it natural.

 

Any ideas anyone?

Newf :)

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I put the Duncan Quarter Pounders on my project p-bass. I'm very happy with them.

 

With the TI flats, are you going for more of an old-school Motown sound? If so, then maybe these will be a bit more aggressive than you'd like. :confused:

Push the button Frank.
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Bump, I'd like to hear a soundbite of the Antiquities II's that's for sure. Do any of the downloads on your sites have it?

 

Ken, I got the T1 flats because I wanted to try flats but without the high tension that AFAIK tends to accompany flats plus the folks on here raved about the sound.

 

I do think at times that it would be nice to go with a total old-school vibe. Get a nickel-plated badass bridge, ashtray and p/u cover, and hardware to match.

 

I've only just recently started to play motown/funk tunes but the emphasis here is on the blues. If I can get good R&B sound too, I'll consider it a bonus. :)

 

Thanks

Newf

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My experience so far is that the PU makes less difference than you would think. I tried Fender, Nordstrand and Q-Tuners on my Jazz and the sonic differences are slight. I have a slight preference for the Nordstrand in my test.

 

IMHO any good supplier will deliver a good product and you won't be disappointed..

 

Davo

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Davo, I don't doubt you but I don't think the current pickups are too wonderful. All boom and not much else. The bass only cost me about $80 new so you know that the pickups were budget to say the least. I liked the OEM Fender American ones (which I thought didn't sound much different then the Fender Vintage '62 which are on the 60th Anniversary Models) but if I could I'd like some more bottom and punch then those have.

 

Thanks

Newf

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There's a difference between cheap pickups and higher dollar ones. I found that out when I put Duncan SPB3's on my project bass. They're more powerful than the cheap pups that were on it before.

I've wondered too, about differences between Duncan and Bartolini or Fralin. And I've been told that getting the right pots for the pups helps too.

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What I meant to say was the sonic difference between the high-end suppliers is moderately small. I'm expecting a tirade of abuse for this statement. :rolleyes:

 

Clearly budget basses have budget PUs and so the difference here could be considerable. I guess I'm saying not to worry too much about the different suppliers and finding the perfect PU. Select one that you have heard and liked.

 

Davo

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jl, I'm going to go to a store here later today and play the Fender Hoppus model. It has SD quarter pounders out of the box.

 

I agree with you Davo,hopefully the tirade will be small. ;)

 

Cheers

Newf

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I like the Rio Grandes P pickups. The bass I played was a 1960 P bass that had been kinda hacked up a bit, but it was rocking a Rio Grande pup and had a fat vintage sound.

 

Don't overlook them.

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A very inexpensive option for a P pickup is Reverend's discontinued stock at http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitar_bass_parts.html

 

$12 + shipping for a nice quality P pickup

 

I really like the stock one in my Rumblefish PJ and have dropped one of their closeouts into another bass and liked it there. I'd call it a somewhat aggressive kind of P sound (I've not tried many P pickups myself to compare).

craigb @ TB, G&LDP, the Dudepit (boek @ Dudepit 1)
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Originally posted by Newf Stimpson:

Bump, I'd like to hear a soundbite of the Antiquities II's that's for sure.

I'll try and get a bunch of samples recorded tonight and post them for you (and anyone else) to listen to.

 

Please stay tuned.

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My Canadian brotha, wrap your ear-hole around these:

 

P with a pick

P with fingers

 

Both of them are just random noodling I did in C major on all the strings. That's my Lull P with those Antiquity II pickups. Tone and volume knob up full. Recorded direct out of an Ampeg SVP with the EQ set completely flat and no boost buttons engaged.

 

This is something that was inspired by the "Overshooting when sliding" thread. More C naturals than anyone should need to withstand:

 

Crazy slidey nonsense

 

That stupid little figure starts on 3rd fret C on the A string. Slides up to 17th fret C on the G string, hit the octave below it on the 15th fret on the A string. Slide down to the same note you just played at the 10th fret of the D string, hit the octave below it. Slide down to the C you started on. Repeat. Annoy your neighbors. :D

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Thanks man. I attribute it all to those pickups and Mr. Lull's fine craftsmanship. I wanted something very 'vintage' sounding and that's exactly what I wound up getting. And I didn't have to auction off my internal organs so I could afford a pre-CBS Fender to get it. :)

 

It sounds great with flats on it too. Very Duck Dunn.

 

I also just noticed that I accidentally chopped off the E string noodles on the 'with a pick' sample. Oops. Sorry about that!

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Originally posted by Bumpcity:

My Canadian brotha, wrap your ear-hole around these:

Consider my earhole wrapped. :D Nice tone on that Lull Bump. Thanks very much for the samples. The Antiquity II goes for around C$275 here :cry:

 

I checked out a Mark Hoppus J-Bass earlier this evening as it comes out of the box with SD P-Bass 1/4 pounders and I liked the tone. It was interesting trying to play with the relief a mile high and the strings upside-down though (flipped righty). :evil:

 

I may get one of the Reverend pups in the meantime. I think it's worth a shot for $12. I've read about others liking them as well.

 

Thanks again

Newf

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Newf,

A friend bought a Reverend 5 string a while back and is really sold on it's sound and playability. I've heard it and it does sound good. $12 for one of those pups is a real steal, and their basses are on clearance too.

Thanks for the heads up Craig. I may check into those for my project bass.

Visit my band's new web site.

 

www.themojoroots.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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