Radiohead Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 I was just wondering what the trick to sounding like the pros is with slap bass. I have a musicman string 5 and a nice ampeg amp, so i have good equipment for it. I was just wondering besides having new strings on and using octaves/muted notes, how does victor and flea sound so badass. What are some good scales to use? And whats the secret to going extremely fast like they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord -B Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Here You Go . The speed is gained from not 'bouncing' with your thumb, clever use of hammer-ons and ghostnotes-a-plenty. Lots of previous threads on this also which you can use the search feature for... i'll give it 5mins before someone reccommends Ed F's book as well for some real speedy stuff check out Victor Wooten at Bass Day 98 for a good demo on his double slap method. This involves hitting the string on the way down and hitting it on the way back up. He describes it as 'using your thumb like a pick' Derek Smalls: It's like fire and ice, basically. I feel my role in the band is to be somewhere in the middle of that, kind of like lukewarm water. http://www.myspace.com/gordonbache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Gord -B: Here You Go . The speed is gained from not 'bouncing' with your thumb, clever use of hammer-ons and ghostnotes-a-plenty. Lots of previous threads on this also which you can use the search feature for... i'll give it 5mins before someone reccommends Ed F's book as well for some real speedy stuff check out Victor Wooten at Bass Day 98 for a good demo on his double slap method. This involves hitting the string on the way down and hitting it on the way back up. He describes it as 'using your thumb like a pick'Thanks!! Little tricks like the double slap is what i need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord -B Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 See some real pros doin there thang on the videos section. But word of warning on the speed front, who would you rather sound like? Mark King or Marcus Miller..... Derek Smalls: It's like fire and ice, basically. I feel my role in the band is to be somewhere in the middle of that, kind of like lukewarm water. http://www.myspace.com/gordonbache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Watts Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Gord, I been lookin for that website again for ages... thanks Brian Bromberg's video is the one I was looking for.. never heard of that guy... Pain teaches what pride won't let you learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaguer Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 When slapping, speed isn't really the thing that makes it funky. Space is. Chuck Rainey's video is terrific for the way he approaches a groove and the way he mutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Bulldozer Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Gord -B: ... i'll give it 5mins before someone reccommends Ed F's book as well Be sure to check out Ed Friedland's slap bass video I thump, therefore I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 question For Ed Friedland's slap bass video... does it focus on the basics or is it more advanced? Like will it teach me the proper way to do the double slap and things of that nature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLoy Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 It's very thorough. I haven't used it, but I've heard a lot of positive things about it on this forum. I'd recommend picking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolini Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Flea's technique is easy. He does it as below. T -Thumb V -palm hit muted P -Pop D~- Double-notes-semitone glide on 1st and 2nd strings with 1st & 2nd finger T- VP VP T- / VP VP T- VP variations 1. T- VP T- TP / VP T- T- VP 2. T- T- D~ VP / T- T- D~ VP goes on... The palm is continuously going up and down. It a two combination-movement. i.e. down down up, down up down up, or if you want you could also do down down down up. On the down hit, Palm or Thumb is played and on up motion of the palm, the pop takes place. Its up to you to decide where to hit the palm mute, pop, thumb , hammer-ons and hammer on pops. This way you can really go fast. I would advice you to look in to other techniques as well, so you will have a combination of varied techniques. Louis Johnson has a very good instructional video. An extract from that video can be seen at Bass Lobsters site under video.(Gord has given the link)I got that video and it sure taught and inspired me to slap crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Originally posted by Ayatollah Watts: Brian Bromberg's video is the one I was looking for.. never heard of that guy...I'm not a huge fan of Brian Bromberg's music, it's too smooth jazz for my tastes. He's a helluva player. Total asshole of a person. He has some serious, serious attitude/ego issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 Originally posted by Bartolini: Flea's technique is easy. He does it as below. T -Thumb V -palm hit muted P -Pop D~- Double-notes-semitone glide on 1st and 2nd strings with 1st & 2nd finger T- VP VP T- / VP VP T- VP variations 1. T- VP T- TP / VP T- T- VP 2. T- T- D~ VP / T- T- D~ VP goes on... The palm is continuously going up and down. It a two combination-movement. i.e. down down up, down up down up, or if you want you could also do down down down up. On the down hit, Palm or Thumb is played and on up motion of the palm, the pop takes place. Its up to you to decide where to hit the palm mute, pop, thumb , hammer-ons and hammer on pops. This way you can really go fast. I would advice you to look in to other techniques as well, so you will have a combination of varied techniques. Louis Johnson has a very good instructional video. An extract from that video can be seen at Bass Lobsters site under video.(Gord has given the link)I got that video and it sure taught and inspired me to slap crazy.damn thats helpful thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Watts Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Originally posted by Bumpcity: Originally posted by Ayatollah Watts: Brian Bromberg's video is the one I was looking for.. never heard of that guy...I'm not a huge fan of Brian Bromberg's music, it's too smooth jazz for my tastes. He's a helluva player. Total asshole of a person. He has some serious, serious attitude/ego issues.I just like the lil video on there... he laid down a nice lil slap line... I checked his website.. and from what I seen, i figured that the video was probably all I'd be interested in from dude... and from my experiences most jazz purist are snobs..he seemed like a jazz purist so I'm not suprised that you'd say what you did about him.. how'd you meet him? Pain teaches what pride won't let you learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 whats up with bassists that have enormous egos? From what it sounds like bassists are 2nd to lead singers in being complete douche bags... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolini Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I have to give you a further point that I've missed to mentioned above. The pops mentioned above is a combination of 'clean pops' and 'muted pops'.After right hand's paml-mute-hit down ward, the upward motion could play either a clean pop or a muted pop. cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Originally posted by Radiohead: whats up with bassists that have enormous egos? From what it sounds like bassists are 2nd to lead singers in being complete douche bags...Come now, everyone knows lead guitarists have the biggest ego in the world. Lead singers are usually just flakey. Lots of bass players have inferiority complexes due to a lack of distortion. Not a single person has figured out drummers yet. Oh, and keys players are just the puppet masters of the whole lot. Bromberg - jazz purist? Not so sure about that. That's like calling Kenny G. a jazz purist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRBass Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Forget about every Slap monkey and go straight to the source: Larry Graham. He invented it, and is the master. Listen to Sly & the family Stone performances on the original Woodstock album. That's right where Flea got his whole bag of tricks. It's absolutely ferocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Watts Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by GTRBass: Forget about every Slap monkey and go straight to the source: Larry Graham. He invented it, and is the master. Listen to Sly & the family Stone performances on the original Woodstock album. That's right where Flea got his whole bag of tricks. It's absolutely ferocious.his instructional video isn't isn't really good.. it was entertaining tho... Pain teaches what pride won't let you learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orphan wells Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 C'mon. Everyone konw Flea got his chops from Bootsy and Bootsy's chops were beamed down to him from the mother ship. I didn't come here to play. I came here to make babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted December 12, 2003 Author Share Posted December 12, 2003 bootsy sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Watts Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Originally posted by orphan wells: C'mon. Everyone konw Flea got his chops from Bootsy and Bootsy's chops were beamed down to him from the mother ship.Bootsy also looked up to Larry Graham... Pain teaches what pride won't let you learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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