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You're entitled to your opinion.

 

Many other people have different opinions and I can only think of a handful of top pros who are currently playing Alembics.

 

Stanley Clarke

Jimmy "Flim" Johnson

 

and there must be someone else.

 

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Originally posted by jeremyc:

...I can only think of a handful of top pros who are currently playing Alembics.

 

Stanley Clarke

Jimmy "Flim" Johnson

 

and there must be someone else...

 

Yeah, there is...Wally Malone. Ever heard of him? ;):D

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Who is Wally Malone? Doesn't he play forward for the Lakers now? :P

 

Seriously, Alembics are cool, but too much tone control for me. People like me need simple sound designs so that no matter what, the engineer's sound checks can be kept to under 30 seconds. If I had a Series II, I would spend more time tweeking the tone controls than I would playing the damn thing.They sure are pretty though.

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Originally posted by BenLoy:

And I think Les Claypool has got to be the best bassist like, ever!

 

Can you imagine if Les played an Alembic? Then he'd be GODLIKE!

Thats pretty hot, but still nothing compared to f1eLdY playing not one but two Alembics at once (he is so uber that he wouldn't even break a sweat doing that, it's so easy when you're the most bestest)!!!

 

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Originally posted by tnb:

Who is Wally Malone? Doesn't he play forward for the Lakers now? :P

Isn't that CARL MALONE?

(im not even sure that he is on the lakers though) :D

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alembics are OK I guess, I have never been impressed with their Omega body shapes or whatever their top of the line bass is. They're way too....what's the word.....ugly. The other thing I don't like is the pickup placement. The neck pickup is placed right where I pop my G and D strings. It sticks out about 1/2 inch past the G string and just always gets in my way. Has anyone ever recorded with an Alembic? I noticed the last time I recorded with one I had to turn off all of the lights in the studio because the pickups are so sensitive they were picking up some buzz from the high powered mini halogens. Anyone ever had this happen?
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How I am supposed to know what Wally plays? He's all the way over on the other side of the stage from me!

 

Louis Johnson played an Alembic for a minute.

 

And I think I saw Robert "Kool" Bell playing one.

 

Or course there is Trip Walmsley's 8 string.

 

And the King of Thailand has one.

 

If you go to the Alembic web page and look at all the custom basses that they make, you will see that generally they are going to semi-professionals or amateurs who have way too much money and time on their hands.

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Originally posted by jeremyc:

How I am supposed to know what Wally plays? He's all the way over on the other side of the stage from me!

 

:D

 

And, Phil, it's Karl Malone. He doesn't play an Alembic. I think Wayman Tisdale plays Fenders, though. Can anyone verify this?

 

:D

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Originally posted by tnb:

Who is Wally Malone? Doesn't he play forward for the Lakers now? :P

At 5'6" basketball wasn't quite my thing. :D

My Alembic is the Orion model, I don't have a series bass but still love the tone I get from it. It has the greatest sustain and the B string does sound big.

 

Wally

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Originally posted by Pernax:

Originally posted by BenLoy:

And I think Les Claypool has got to be the best bassist like, ever!

 

Can you imagine if Les played an Alembic? Then he'd be GODLIKE!

Thats pretty hot, but still nothing compared to f1eLdY playing not one but two Alembics at once (he is so uber that he wouldn't even break a sweat doing that, it's so easy when you're the most bestest)!!!

 

-P

The mental image I now have of our good friend f1eLdY slapping one bass with another bass is making me laugh. A lot. *clik* *clickitie* *clak* *CLIck* *cLiKE*

 

Speaking of Alembic basses. I personally am not a fan. I can't stand the necks on them.

 

This is an amazing *looking* instrument though

 

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Originally posted by Bumpcity:

**Warning** If you've never been to Ed Roman's site, go grab a beverage, and perhaps a light snack; you're going to be at that site for a while.

Absolutely correct there. Make sure you don't get sucked into the hypnotic world of looking at tonewoods. :D

 

I have never played an Alembic. One of the most bad-ass bass players I knew growing up played one of those Stanley Clark models and he made it sing.

 

I would like to play one. Maybe Wally'll let me test drive his Orion 6 the next time I'm out in Cali. ;)

 

Peace.

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I've never picked up an Alembic that I fell in love with. They are very well-made, and I love all of the attention given to the electronics. They just aren't sized/shaped for me.

 

Here\'s my favorite

 

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Originally posted by tnb:

Tom, what's with the lack of fretlines???

Haha, fretlines on a fretless are for wimps!!! :P

 

Even though I don't own a fretless, I'd still not want 'em on my own fretless, if I had one. Just the side dots would be okay. My opinion.

 

Besides, when I played the upright back in my HS days, I used tape markers only for the first few months, then I took them off. I can go to a store right now, pick up an upright, and within a few minutes, play as if I never stopped playing one. Really. ;)

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Originally posted by Dr. Zarkov-Capasso:

I've never picked up an Alembic that I fell in love with. They are very well-made, and I love all of the attention given to the electronics. They just aren't sized/shaped for me.

 

Here\'s my favorite

 

Tom

AT LEAST IT COMES WITH THE HARDSHELL CASE!!!!

 

AND THERE ARE SO MANY KNOBS!!!!

Seriously, that's too many...WTF do they all do? And are they practical? They better make magic fingers come out and play lines perfectly for you!! Or something...

 

(it better for $11k!)

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I also took a look at the Alembic custom gallery;

ok, some of those are quite pretty, but every

Alembic bass I've tried (4) has been way too

heavy for me, I wouldn't want to play 3 or 4 sets

a night with one!

 

Besides, their basses have sooo many controls, take a look at this:

http://www3.alembic.com/img/JEcontrol_layout.jpg

 

GASP!! :eek: No thanks, I'll stick with the P-Bass:

2 controls, neither of which I use: if I want

to change the tone I use my fingers! :D

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I've never been too enarmoured with the Alembic sound - somewhat lacking in character IMO (growl in particular). I've played a few, most notably a £10,000 Series 2 custom 4-string, the most expensive bass I've ever played (and that includes a Fodera AJ signature). Nice, but not that nice.

 

Alex

 

P.S. Wasn't Carwash recorded with an Alembic?

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Originally posted by Dr. Taz:

Haha, fretlines on a fretless are for wimps!!!

Even though I don't own a fretless, I'd still not want 'em on my own fretless, if I had one. Just the side dots would be okay. My opinion.

Besides,

Gary Willis has fretlines :eek: and i am positive that nobody thinks he's a wimp.

 

Also posted by Taz

when I played the upright back in my HS days, I used tape markers only for the first few months, then I took them off. I can go to a store right now, pick up an upright, and within a few minutes, play as if I never stopped playing one. Really.
Really??? Seems I can't even take a week off from playing upright without sucking ass for at least a gig or 2.
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Originally posted by tnb:

Gary Willis has fretlines :eek: and i am positive that nobody thinks he's a wimp.

 

Uhm...Can't ya take a joke? :eek::D

 

tnb sez:

Really??? Seems I can't even take a week off from playing upright without sucking ass for at least a gig or 2.

Well, we aren't the same person, are we? ;)
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Trevor Dunn's 5 string is an Alembic...although lately when I see him live he's either playing upright or a hollowbody Guild Starfire with a pick.

 

Alembics are fine instruments, although I've never cared for their ultra hi-fi sound. Every time I play one I'm always searching for a setting that gives me the sound of a jazz bass. I prefer the sound of Fender-inspired and/or designed instruments (Fender, Music Man, G&L, Sadowsky, Mike Lull, etc).

 

An Alembic will sound better played solo than a Fender, but there's just something about the way a Fender sits in a track that just plain works. It's partly because engineers have so much experience with them that they get get a sound in 30 seconds...but you can't argue with their track record in recorded music. Even bassists who use tricked-out custom instruments live will often pull out an old Fender when they go into the studio. They work.

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Originally posted by Bumpcity:

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And leave some crumbs on the floor so you can find your way back out. :D

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