NickT Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 At the moment my rig consists of an SWR Workingmans 300 head and an 8 ohm Peavey 4x10. I have the chance to buy a matching 4x10 relatively cheaply (I know the seller and the cab is in good condition). OR should I ditch both Peavey cabs and buy one 4 ohm Goliath 3? I have run the head at 4 ohms (with the pair of Peavey 4x10s) and loved the sound. I would like to be able to run the head at 4 ohms, but don't want to have to transport two large cabs or scare the crap out of club owners/landlords by turning up with a sky scraper rig. How much difference will there be in the sound (or percieved sound) of the rig if I run the head at 4 ohms into four 10" speakers as opposed to eight speakers. Obviously I will not be moving as much air. The other option that's occured to me is...an 8 ohm 4x10 and one 8 ohm 2x10. Thus achieving 4 ohms, more than 4 speakers (more air being moved), as well as three different configerations for the rig. Which option should I go for? Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 Just after my original post, I re-read the manual for my amp and found that the minimum impeadence for the head is 2.6 ohms. This opens up a further option: a 4 ohm cab and one 8 ohm cab. AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!! TOO MANY CHOICES!!!!!!! Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Do you really need the extra volume that having two 4x10" cabs will give you? If your current cab is loud enough then I doubt you'd want to cart around two cabs of that size just for some extra headroom and bottom-end, expecially in London. Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edendude Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Personally... Because of the damping factor of 8 ohm cabs, which always make them sound much tighter than 4 ohm cabs, in my experience, I would take a completely different route, and one that you may not have considered... I'd ditch the Peavey gear, and the SWR head, buy one SWR Golliath III 4x10 cab, and a high-power amp (at least 500 watts). This will give you a HUGE and TIGHT sound, with tons of volume, and save you having to drag around a monster rig. I am currently using an 8 ohm SWR 4x10 and a 540 watt GK-1001RB head (350 watts @ 8 ohms). It works for me. Big fat sound, without the 'skyscraper' rig. My Last Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 You could rewire the 8 ohm cabinet to 4 ohms.... Hope this is helpful. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 IMHO, if you're playing predominantly club gigs, a single 4x10 cab should give you plenty of sound, especially if you can put 350-400W into it. You don't want to cart two cabs around if you can avoid it. I don't know the power handling of your Peavey cab, but you might also want to consider getting a more powerful head (like Edendude suggests), one that can put at least 350W into your 8-ohm cab (assuming it can handle that kind of power). It's not going to have the large sound of two 4x10 cabs, but it might really work well. If you don't like the sound of your Peavey cab, and you want to keep your SWR WM300 head, then maybe the way to go is a 4-ohm SWR Goliath or another brand whose cabs you like. Good luck. spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 The head runs at 160 watts @ 8 ohms, 270 watts @ 4 ohms and 350 watts @ 2.6 ohms. The route that is looking best to me, is one 4 ohm 4x10 (Golaith III) and one 8 ohm 2x10 (Goliath Jr.). With this set up I can use the 4x10 for most work, have the 2x10 (and lower power) for rehearsals and small gigs, and use the pair gigs where I need maximum volume and spread. Any opinions as an idea? Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pernax Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Sounds fair, but remember not to go too hard on the head if you go for the 2.6 ohm load, as it isn't exactly peanuts for the amplifier... Just use a bit of caution when playing with that setup. (up to 200 characters) You may use UBBCode in your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edendude Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Nick... Running a 4 ohm and 8 ohm cab together is not advised. The 8 ohm cab will receive very little power from the amp in that set up, and it will sound awful. I have tried it. Not good. Better to have two 8 ohm cabs, if you need to stack a pair. My Last Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 The 4-ohm cab would receive twice the power the 8-ohm cab would. In your case, every pair of 10" speakers would receive the same power. However, just 'cause an amp is rated down to 2.6 or even 2 ohms, doesn't necessarily mean that you should push it there. Is buying a new (or used) head that's more powerful really out of the question? spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickT Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 Well, buying any new gear is now almost totally out of the question as the money I had set aside is gonna need to be spent on a car instead. So, anyone got any thoughts on estate cars?(Station wagons to those in the States.) Free your mind and your ass will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I use a Peavey TNT 115. I was thinking of adding a 2x10 cab to this, but I found that I could get enough edge in my tone after some experimenting. Also, it's plenty loud for most of the gigs I play, and I get miked anyhow. My guitarists nad singers were complaining the other day that I was too loud, and had to cut the volume a bit. Oops... Still might do the 2x10 thing though, esp. if I ever get around to forming my proggy band of rogues, or just sell the thing, or keep it at home... The band in question usually plays small to medium sized ball rooms, and with the PA we use now, I don't have any trouble getting heard (and felt...gotta remember to use good ear plugs). On a show I did just a few days before C'mas last year, I let the bassist from another band use my amp. He was using an Ibanez SoundGear, one of the lower end models with a P pickup. I realized it was too loud when he played...shoulda put him on Low Gain These days, I also get a bit of boost from my multiFX pedal, the soothing, metallic light blue board known as the "BP 200"! Really depends on what kind of room you play, as well as if you're being mic'd. sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanYmaL X Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by NickT: So, anyone got any thoughts on estate cars?(Station wagons to those in the States.)The only 'wagons worth buying are Subaru Legacies (Outbacks) or Volvo's. DX Aerodyne Jazz Deluxe Pod X3 Live Roland Bolt-60 (modified) Genz Benz GBE250-C 2x10 Acoustic 2x12 cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by NickT: So, anyone got any thoughts on estate cars?(Station wagons to those in the States.)Well, apart from music, cars are my other specialist subject. How much have you got to spend, petrol or diesel, and how big an estate car do you want? Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 NickT, Check your private messages. Peace, --sweets spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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