Tom Kiefer Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 a classic guitar solo (for me anyway) which still gives me goose bumps is from the 1974 song "How Long" by Ace. I've been trying to replicate that heavy tone, but it's likely as much in the guitar and amp as well as in the effect that is being used, but one can only try.. Is that a phase shifter? It's got that rotary, almost spinning sound, kind of Leslie-like, and I've heard it on many solos of that era and I just love it. and the solo just jumps out too, great tone. Thoughts on how to achieve this sound? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Welcome aboard Tom...wishing you good luck on running down the sound you're looking for... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Hi Tom , welcome to the forum...hmmm just youtubed the video, but the audio wasn't great so it was hard to tell. Perhaps two mics were slightly out of phase on the guitar cab...but youtube audio can often sound like that anyway on the whole mix. I did noice the guitarist was playing fingerstyle...that'l sound different to a pick. Wasn't there a Tom Keifer in Cinderella? cheers Guitar Speak Podcast www.guitarspeakpodcast.libsyn.com https://www.facebook.com/guitarspeakpodcast www.itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/guitar-speak-podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 It seems obvious there was some sort of fuzz on it, and I think there might be a slow phase shifter or flanger too. Whatever modulation effect it was, it seems like it was set to a rather light effect. I also think a lot of the way the tone was generated had more to do with the way he bent, slid and hammered into double stops. Can anybody get it touch with Paul Carrack(Ace's vocalist) and see if he knows what then guitarist was using? Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 A old fave song and solo. I saw Paul Carrack play with Nick Lowe's Noise to Go, opening for Elvis Costello and The Attractions at the World's Fair in New Orleans in 1984 (forever ago), and they played it along with "Tempted" and Carrack's single at the time ("I Need You") and Martin Belmont (from The Rumour) did the solo pretty faithfully. Great show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kiefer Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 actually I found this: http://www.last.fm/music/Paul+Carrack/_/How+Long and though the solo was pretty much "aced" (sorry) it still didn't have that raunchy grit of the original; must be just the gear of the era, as well as some tasty soulful playing, in which the magic was something special that just can't be re-created on a whim.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kiefer Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Ok, it took about 2 hours of jammin and fiddlin and trying out different combinations but I've finally found that elusive tone, and it's 110% easier now to get into that groove and climb right inside that classic solo. (can you tell I'm pumped?) I play live using Apple's Logic 9 with various plug-ins, and I used a pair of Candy Fuzz pedals, pinned, into a Vintage British Stack (clean) and finally into a Spin Box pedal and now I'm in retro heaven. That fuzz and vintage Marshall tones are essential in the broth, but the key ingredient is that rotating Leslie sound, the secret sauce of a lot of vintage solos of that era. If anyone else uses Logic I'd be happy to send a copy of the Channel Strip I'm using if you're interested. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteSucks Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Flashback to High School in Ohio, mid to late '70's....wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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