Creamer298 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So I borrowed a Line 6 DL4 from a friend, and it has a neat loop function. It's fun to be able to lay down some chords and then lead over them. I would like to start composing some songs with the looper (using a microphone to make beats, possibly record some keyboard), however the DL4 only has about a 14 second loop function. So now I'm looking for a dedicated looper, and I've come across 3 that I'm trying to decide between. The Boss RC-20XL, Digitech JamMan, or I might step it up and get the Boss RC-50. Do any of you guys have experience with these pedals, and if so which ones would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The RC-20 is intuitive to me. There isn't much difference between that and the Digitech Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Have the Digitech JamMan and have been more than happy with it...you do have to buy an extra card to get the most out of it as it comes with 125mb but you can plug in a 2gig card and wah lah you can record as long as you want to...it has mic and instrument inputs, works great for song writing, records great...the only thing that didn't work was the peak meter light but didn't need it anyway...and it may work if you play around with the input settings, has both input and output controls, up to 99 patches, drum click, etc...and don't forget to order the optional foot switch if you decide to buy one as it comes in very handy...with practice it can be used for live performances and it's a great tool for singer songwriters or just laying down chords and practicing your leads...warning...it's hard to quit playing with it and your practice sessions will be longer and longer.... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. Donis Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Line6 also has the JM4 looper which has some drum samples and some of their amp modelling built in. I haven't played with one but when I was considering getting a looper that was on my list to check out. I ended up getting a used Line6 M13 pedal board which has a looper (28 seconds I think) in it but I didn't get it for the looper I got it for equipment backup. I would like to have some drum beats to mess around with so I may still end up with a dedicated looper some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 One thing- if stereo I/O is anytyhing important to your overall plan, I believe that the RC-50 is the only one of these that has full stereo I/O, maybe the only stereo dedicated looper period... Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamer298 Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm kinda in the dark as to how Stereo differs from Mono when it comes to guitar equipment. I just plug all of my stuff into the mono jack. Do you guys think that the JamMan would be able to satisfy my needs? I just want to be able to throw in a drum beat, a few different guitar phrases, and make weird noises on the microphone. I feel like the RC-50 might be overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'm kinda in the dark as to how Stereo differs from Mono when it comes to guitar equipment. I just plug all of my stuff into the mono jack. In that case, don't worry at all about stereo I/O, you'll be fine with either the RC-20XL or Jam Man. The JamMan has a USB connection if you want to be able to save and load to and from a computer; The RC-20XL has a fade-out feature that the JamMan doesn't (AFAIK). By the way, go check out the Looper's Delight 'site. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Musicians Friend has the DigiTech Jam Man pedal on clearance. Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanGregor Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Akai Headrush E2. This is the unit KT Tunsall uses. I owned a Boss RC-2, but found the interface got in the way. Looked at the JamMan, but there were constraints ... I don't remember, but it was enough to keep me looking ... The Akai offers stereo, lengthy loops (24 seconds, or 35 seconds in low-fi),really versatile delay, and echo. The only drawback I found to this unit is that it adds obvious noise to the signal chain. Play loud, and it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I'm kinda in the dark as to how Stereo differs from Mono when it comes to guitar equipment. I just plug all of my stuff into the mono jack. In that case, don't worry at all about stereo I/O, you'll be fine with either the RC-20XL or Jam Man. The JamMan has a USB connection if you want to be able to save and load to and from a computer; The RC-20XL has a fade-out feature that the JamMan doesn't (AFAIK). The Jam Man has two stop modes, you can stop with the switch or you can use the "finish" mode and it will play through to the end of the phrase and stop, so you can record a fade out if you desire...thanks for mentioning the USB Caevan...this allows you to do a lot of things with the computer like store the 6.5 hours of recording loops from the 2gig card or whole songs on the computer as many times as you have room for, and then load them back and forth on to the jam man...you change your analog to digital on the fly...if you only need 16 minutes of making sounds in live situations then the RC20 or even the RC2 is a better choice...but for the money, I'll take the jam man...I really like the endless overdubbing on the fly feature and the other functions as well... By the way, go check out the Looper's Delight 'site. Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamer298 Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 I'm going with the JamMan. Thanks for all of your input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Please be sure to come back and let us know how you like it- keep us posted! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambienttales Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Creamer298. I think that is a good choice, especially with the price reductions I researched on and off for over year before I bought one, checked out the Boomerang Looper (latest version still in the development stage), used alot by Adrian Belew, I like The Jammam, and the Akai Headrush 2 (great sound), I passed on the Line 6 Looper as it had too many features I did not need or already had, I went with Electro-Harmonix's 2880 Super Looper and the 2880's foot controller (certainly not the least expensive but I really , really like it, I have a Stereo Memeory Man with Hazari (which has a looping function which got me started, Best of Luck !dwwave ambienttales Circuit-Bending Gibson Blueshawk Epiphone Elitist '57 Goldtop Line 6 Variax 500 & Workbench Atomic Reactor Amp Podxt Vox Tonelab Adrennalinn 111 E-H SMMH E-H 2880&FC Seynour Duncan Shape-Shifter eMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hey, welcome to the GPF, ambienttales! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderz Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 RC-20. Stick it to the man. http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/anderseb/ (Muh homepage of greatness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yep, Welcome aboard Ambient.... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambienttales Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thanks for the kind welcome aboard, will try to check the forum out more frequently Peace ambienttales ambienttales Circuit-Bending Gibson Blueshawk Epiphone Elitist '57 Goldtop Line 6 Variax 500 & Workbench Atomic Reactor Amp Podxt Vox Tonelab Adrennalinn 111 E-H SMMH E-H 2880&FC Seynour Duncan Shape-Shifter eMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Renman Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I have a JamMan and it's cool. It's great that you can load it with backing tracks in WAV format, but remember they have to be MONO for that to work. Line 6 has this new cool looper pedal now, and I'm going to try it too. Looks like a lot of fun. Free guitar lessons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 ...wah lah...Don't mean to be a Richard, but I have a terrible impulse to correct people. Everybody I know detests that about me. That said: The expression is "voila" (vwah-la), a French word that translates roughly to "there it is!" or "there ya go!" O.K., ya hate my guts now. I just can't help myself. Wonderful info about loopers, though. You know tons more about them than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newf Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 LOL Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 O.K., ya hate my guts now. I just can't help myself. I don't hate your guts, not at all I DO kinda want to throttle your spleen, though... Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Sorry for the "wah lah" Chad, but it's just that I can't spell "voila" or anythingelseforthatmatter and don't have time spell check so you are free to correct me anytime it bugs you... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 See, that's the thing, Larry, it doesn't bug me in the way I think you think it does. When I correct I do it to be helpful. So few people take it that way, but it's true, and just the best way I can explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 OK, that's cool, spelling and ettiquette and helping one's peers; and I've found the Expression Pedal- but where's the Spleen Throttle, picker? Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Stored right next to the Taint-Smiter, probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 You just go ahead and be helpful all you want to Chad...I know it must have bugged you from 11/17/09 to 12/3/09 and you just had to say something...but wah lah, voila, vwa-la or whatever, thanks for not letting it bug you in the way I think it does (whatever that is).... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 My aunt used to play the voila... Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You just go ahead and be helpful all you want to Chad...I know it must have bugged you from 11/17/09 to 12/3/09 and you just had to say something...but wah lah, voila, vwa-la or whatever, thanks for not letting it bug you in the way I think it does (whatever that is).... Well, I'm sorry I offended you, Larry. You certainly have the right to continue to use words that you have no idea how to spell, what they mean, or where they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Ok guys...each of you go to your corners and think about what you've done. Then come out and shake hands. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I'm not offended in the least and have only kindness in mind...there is no war on this end and no need to shake hands, only responding to make two points...many a thread contains many words or portions of words or made up words and "Wah Lah" is not really up there in the importance catagory, if someone wishes to make a point out of one of my made up words, I have no problem with it...2nd point and most important, I like Chad no matter what he says.... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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