simus35 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I find this on ebay Hamer USA 12 String American Bass http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170298019295 i just want to know how you can play with this kind of bass, i think it with a pick sorry for my english i'm a french Canadien fender 65 Twin Reverb reissue Fender Stratocaster 1999 MIA Fender Stratocaster 2013 MIA Godin Artisan ST-5 Godin LG Signature Seagull S6 Yes I love Godin guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom End Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick played a 12 string, he used a pick. I heard a 12 string at a local music store, it was fantastic. "Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, yet you cannot play upon me.'-Hamlet Guitar solos last 30 seconds, the bass line lasts for the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes, you can play that bass with a pick. You could play it with your fingers too, but it would be hard to do. The current price on eBay will not last long, it will sell for a lot more than that. I think that forum member Tater Nuts has one of those basses. They create a huge sound. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jode Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" opens with a 12-string bass lick. No, it is not three guitars in octaves, just one Jeff Ament owning much of the frequency range. Gotta love a bassist with a case of manifest destiny. "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Didn't the bassplayer for KingsX predominantly play a 12-string bass? Or was it 8? A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesie_bass Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I also have one of these -- mid 90's I believe. I have found that I can play it both with or without pick. The pick is much nicer if I'm using it to provide an extra cushion of sound under the guitarist while he solos. But finger style does allow some nice subtleties. Yeah, I bought it originally because I loved the sound from King's X. And it's really fun to use at church now and then! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric VB Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I tried the Dean version and it felt flimsy in my hands. (Was it just that particular bass?) On the Dean each course of 3 has the bass string on top with 2 strings below tuned in unison to the octave. This means if you play fingerstyle you'll play the octave strings slightly ahead of the bass string. The same for up-picking. But down-picking gives you the bass note slightly ahead of the octaves. I preferred the sound of down-picking myself. (I don't often play bass behind the beat.) You may also want to use two amps with such an instrument. Usually one amp will be a guitar amp and it will handle the higher frequencies and the other amp will be a bass amp to handle the lows. Amy from Clatter uses such a setup, as does John Paul Jones when he plays his 8s, 10s or 12s. I did try another 12 at Bass NW. It was the same brand Amy used to use, but I just checked her site and she doesn't have it anymore. That bass felt a lot better than the Dean to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesie_bass Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hmmm... I've not tried the Dean version so I can't make a true comparison, but my Hamer has always felt very solid to me (although tuning takes forever!). The big difference seems to be that the strings are set up opposite of what Eric describes for the Dean. Therefore, if playing fingerstyle, your finger hits the bass string first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Jew Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 One caveat about those 12-string basses--they're not so much fun to tune. They do, however, sound like 10 tons of sonic doom when played through a large amp with lots of watts and speakers. It'll make your ears bleed and your head explode. It also makes a fine gift. \m/ Erik "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." --Sun Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcadmus Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Didn't the bassplayer for KingsX predominantly play a 12-string bass? Or was it 8? Yeah, I believe Doug used both eights and 12s over time. I think he's mostly back to using a four now though. "Tours widely in the southwestern tip of Kentucky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 One caveat about those 12-string basses--they're not so much fun to tune. It's more fun if you don't tune it. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Jew Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Good point, sir--you get a free chorus effect with every slightly out-of-tune course of strings. \m/ Erik "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." --Sun Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Good point, sir--you get a free chorus effect with every slightly out-of-tune course of strings. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I always wanted a 8 or 12 string. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I've officially owned and sold three of those basses now. The original one was a custom job - the other two were standard USA built. All of mine were 34" scale. That one on ebay is a short scale (30 1/2"). They sound heavenly especially when used with a bit of overdrive. I always used a pick when I played them and had them strung so the higher octave strings were on top of the low bass string - makes it much easier to *always* play those higher tiny strings. The cheap Rogue 8-string is giving me my fix for octave power goodness now. Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" opens with a 12-string bass lick. No, it is not three guitars in octaves, just one Jeff Ament owning much of the frequency range. Gotta love a bassist with a case of manifest destiny. It's actually just two octaves - a 12-string is tuned with the standard low bass string then two strings double an octave up. Didn't the bassplayer for KingsX predominantly play a 12-string bass? Or was it 8? Dug used to play 12-string basses a lot. He rarely plays them anymore. He never used 8-strings as far as I know. Good point, sir--you get a free chorus effect with every slightly out-of-tune course of strings. I used to tune the two octave strings a few cents off dead on in tune. It sounded mo' bettah with a little natural chorusy goodness going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moot Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Or, maybe this "He is to music what Stevie Wonder is to photography." getz76 I have nothing nice to say so . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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... Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Or, maybe this Knock that off, moot. I don't need to see those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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