Strategery Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 How about Brian Setzer? Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Big band is not at all the same as orchestrating for classical music. The guitar lends itself well to the songs of big band... to a degree. There's only so much even Brian Setzer has accomplished in this field. He's been re-hashing classic big band music as a cross with rock, not composing new music aimed at combining guitar and full orchestra. It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Iverson Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I read a GP article awhile back about a piece where Andy Summers played electric guitar and Ben Verdery played classical guitar with an orchestra. I'd like to hear that! There have always been a shortage of people who truly knew the guitar well enough to write for it, but who we also trained classical composers. Julian Bream said he sometimes had to sit down with composer who wrote for him and have them rewrite certain things that simply could not be played on guitar. There are some fingerstyle guitarists who write really nice guitar pieces, sometimes with parts for other instruments. I think of Chris Proctor for one. Are there great electric guitar composers out there? Probably - if there are, I'd love to hear them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yeah, writing for electric guitar and orchestra seems to be a pretty impossible task. I was thinking more of solo guitar pieces, something like this: (I don't like this guy's performance that much, IMHO, he fluffs a few notes) Here's the full thing I wish someone would write stuff as good as this but using the full capacities of the electric including gain and whammy bars. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgangsta Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I think the major difficulty in electric guitar with orchestra composition is electric guitar voices do not blend well with existing orchestral arrangements. It always seems to sound like a solo instrument playing above the orchestra. I agree with you, Neil. Occasionally at church I listen to the choir and orchestra wondering how any particular song would benefit from a distorted guitar. In my mind the only time it would work well would be a solo. Of course, then I wonder what everyone would think about me stomping on the old Tube Screamer and tearing off a nasty little solo complete with dive-bombs, tapping, and lighting the guitar on fire at the end. As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I wish someone would write stuff as good as this but using the full capacities of the electric including gain and whammy bars. The trouble is that an overdriven electric guitar is an overwhelmingly dense sound. It's hard enough to tame big electrics to where you can understand the vocals in a rock song :lol:, so the detail of an orchestration is easily lost behind a squalling guitar. Ronnie Montrose did a thing with orchestra, I'll have to look for it to get the title... Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 ...I agree with you, Neil. Occasionally at church I listen to the choir and orchestra wondering how any particular song would benefit from a distorted guitar. In my mind the only time it would work well would be a solo. Of course, then I wonder what everyone would think about me stomping on the old Tube Screamer and tearing off a nasty little solo complete with dive-bombs, tapping, and lighting the guitar on fire at the end. Well... at some churches I've seen that wouldn't be an issue at all. More power to you if it moves your spirit (and the spirits of your fellow worshippers). It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Tony Lanman I think had a chamber piece in which the electric was used extensively, but it really was very different from what you'd expect in the typical rock context. "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real buster Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Just off the top of my head: Robert Fripp Eric Johnson Pat Metheny (sp?) Willie Oteri Liberty Ellman - really nice stuff John McLaughlin Bill Frisell Tons more really but often they are hyped for their soloing because it sells guitars and gear which brings in the wow factor mentioned. Few kids who buy guitars go to the trouble to listen to the arrangements. Also, music is shifting to more improvisation in the EU and Asia where several musicians are involved in a composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.