Mass Effect Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I've become a big fan of Petrucci after seeing the G3 Tokyo DVD. I'm interested in hearing more of his playing but after looking at the reviews on Amazon.com, opinions are quite varied on their work. It seems that for each album there are equal amounts of people that hate it and call it their worst or praise it and declare it the best ever. I figured a guitar focused forum might be a better place to look for opinions on DT albums. So what are the first 1 or 2 discs I should get? quote:Originally posted by mdrs: It's pure B.S., and obvioulsy inaccurate. I suspect it is posted for effect, not for accuracy. John Petrucci > Johnny Winter The Edge > Ted Nugent Guitar One Mag > Guitarplayer Slash > Carlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Bluesbreakers Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bytored Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Images and words, and awake. start there. You wont be dissapointed What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound It's got wires that vibrate, and give music What can this thing be that I found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 It depends. What kind of music do you like? I always tell people start with what sounds good to them, not what sounds good to metalheads or DT fans (such as myself). Images and Words - Pure prog metal/rock, no other way to describe it. Awake - Quintessential Dream Theater Change of Season - A more rock album reminscient of the 70s prog bands, including some covers. Falling Into Infinity - sort of the weird, almost Pink Floydish DT album, good stuff, but not their best work. Scenes from a Memory - A metal/rock opera masterpiece; this is still one of my all time favorite albums. Brilliant story, brilliant lyrics, awesome music. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - This is the album to get if you're a blues and jazz fan, but it is great no matter who you are. Some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard was on this record. Train of Thought - A good steady metal record. Defintely notches above the rest of the metal market, but lacks the energy and sound that is DT. I recommend this for people who grew up on Tool and Pantera, not for people trying to understand who and what Dream Theater is. Octavarium - This is an interesting and eventful album, though many people felt it was too backward and not really DT enough for DT. I, however, love it and find it to be one of their closest returns to Images and Words. Remember, one thing that is very cool about DT is that no two albums sound the same. My biggest complaint about modern metal and rock is that if you heard one record you heard them all. This is one of the few bands who knows exactly how to stray from the norm. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Well put, Rev. However - I gotta question your assessment of Six Degrees... - while the second disc is certainly a lot of mellow (and IMO rather pretentious) rock-opera type stuff, the first disc is split 50/50 between balladeering and punishing metal grooves the likes of which we had not (at that point) seen from DT... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Grif - I understand the punishing metal grooves are in there, as well as some amelodic stuff DT had not really experimented much with, however, I do think Awake had plenty of driving metal riffs that were just as heavy as some of Six... riffs. Moreover, the first disc is also riddled with carefully-placed 6th and 9th chords which are virtually non-existent in pop metal and even most of the DT records. I have the full score for the album and believe me, if you examine the music note for note, you'll see as much jazz, blues, and even bluegrass as you will metal and rock. You should check that book out, it really gives you a new perspective on DT. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Very cool. It's entirely too mentally draining to try and work out a DT song by ear, so I tend to avoid it... Seems though, as I sit and think about it, that "Disappear" had a great deal of odd chording and melodies. Just the same, I can't say that I've ever heard DT execute such a bone-crushing series of riffs as "The Glass Prison"... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 True story. Glass prison was probably the exception on the disk. Even looking at the tab/score you can see that. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprae Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 How is "Score"? It is one of the few that is a complete album on iTunes. One song (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance) is 41 minutes long ! ! ! Octavarium is 26:38. If only it didn't have the people cheering - that works better with Lyrnyrd Skynyrd. Raise your children and spoil your grandchildren. Spoil your children and raise your grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprae Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 And thanks for asking, RC. I, too, fell in love with petrucci's playing from that DVD. I did buy An evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess which is similar to to what he played on the DVD. Have you looked into Liquid Tension Experiment? Apparently that is John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy from Dream Theatre. No vocals - 100% instruments. Both albums get raving reviews on iTunes. Raise your children and spoil your grandchildren. Spoil your children and raise your grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compact Diss Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 The Glass Prison is a nice shout out to Alcoholics Anonymous. Bill W. the guy the song is dedicated to is one of the co founders of A.A. Someone in Dream Theater had a problem with booze...and it looks like Mike Portnoy wrote it...I like the veiled references to A.A. throughout the music world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Effect Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Originally posted by caprae: And thanks for asking, RC. I, too, fell in love with petrucci's playing from that DVD. I did buy An evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess which is similar to to what he played on the DVD. Have you looked into Liquid Tension Experiment? Apparently that is John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy from Dream Theatre. No vocals - 100% instruments. Both albums get raving reviews on iTunes. Yeah, I got the Petrucci/Rudess disc. Nice change of pace from most music being put out these days. Also got Suspended Animation which i like alot. Thanks for the info on "LTE". I'll have to check that one out. quote:Originally posted by mdrs: It's pure B.S., and obvioulsy inaccurate. I suspect it is posted for effect, not for accuracy. John Petrucci > Johnny Winter The Edge > Ted Nugent Guitar One Mag > Guitarplayer Slash > Carlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Originally posted by caprae: How is "Score"? It is one of the few that is a complete album on iTunes. One song (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance) is 41 minutes long ! ! ! Octavarium is 26:38. If only it didn't have the people cheering - that works better with Lyrnyrd Skynyrd. I don't have it yet. When I said score, I was referring to the sheet music collection from Six.... I did, however, put Score on my Christmas list. And those long songs kick ass! RC - LTE is much more like a hybrid of Dream Theater's more technical playing along with the sort of stuff Petrucci played on Suspended Animation. It's not quite as melodic, though I've heard its very cool. I haven't bought it yet, but maybe one of these days I'll check it out in full. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Never mind... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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