Dr. Ellwood Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 "i will fret a 5th fret d barre and tap the frets 12 frets higher to listen to volume of the notes." YES! and this is what we need to make newbies understand when they are shopping! this IS the way to test drive a instrument, the very last thing is to plug it into a amp! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 do you do that as well Lee? i find that on most guitars the volume of the tapped Harmonics are very weak once you hit the B string. but when i tried the LP, it rang strong. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan: do you do that as well Lee? i find that on most guitars the volume of the tapped Harmonics are very weak once you hit the B string. but when i tried the LP, it rang strong. Zan...could you describe what you are talking about in more details....I don't follow what you are saying that you do....remember, while I can play a tad, I don't know what anything is called..... call me musical, but musically illiterate!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 ok, tapped harmonics are done by: fret a chord and with you picking hand hit the frets exactly 12 frets above each note. you have to hit the actual fret for the "chime" to ring out. EVH did this often, "girl gone bad" from 1984 is one song where he did it in the intro. it is really cool. i do it to see how resonant a guitar is. finger a note or full chord with your fretting hand and tap 12 frets above right on the fret. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 so when you tap 12 frets above, you you actually fret the string....i.e. hit the string on the fret 12 above?? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 just quickly tap the actual fret that is 12 frets above the fretted note. ie: fret the A note on the second fret G string and then quickly tap the G string on the 14th fret ( the actual fret not the wood) it should ring out a harmonic. the tap should be quick as to make the harmonic ring out and not mute the string. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 so, you don't hit the fret and hold it down, you just hit the fret and quickly release? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I always play an electric acoustically to evaluate it's resonance. But, I can't say that I've ever seen that tap thingy. Thanks for the new trick!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 i stole it from EVH and used it to see how resonant a guitar is when unplugged. like you i want to hear the guitars tone before pickups sculpt it. i figured that if they ( the tapped harmonics) ring out easily without help from gain and volume than the guitar is plenty resonant. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I don't do the tappy thing either but I definitely play a guitar unplugged to help me decide its worth. The natural tone of a guitar is very important to me as it becomes part of my overall sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 So, not to beat a dead horse, but.... basically Zan, you are saying that we should do some tapping like EVH does in his playing, and if the tapping results in a nice ringing resonant sound coming from the electric played acoustically, then you've got a good axe..... Did I get it right??? I think I've now established myself as both a Guitaraholic, AND AS GUITARDED!!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan: do you do that as well Lee? i find that on most guitars the volume of the tapped Harmonics are very weak once you hit the B string. but when i tried the LP, it rang strong. I sure do Zan, in fact that is exactly how I do it! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 That's cool guys. I just tried some tapping with my Strat and can hear a nice resonant sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I've never really done the tapping thing while evaluating an electric. But, I always play an electric acoustically for quite a while before I plug in. I like to hit a open position chord....like a G or what ever.....and just let it ring. If the wood gets all worked up, and starts rumbling and chimey, then I know it's a good one! I'll surely add tapping to my evaluation sequence now. Thanks, Zan! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 One thing I do is stick my right ear right on the body while playing an unplugged guitar (unless it's a hollowbody or acoustic of course). I probably look weird doing that in a music store but I've done weirder things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 "I'll surely add tapping to my evaluation sequence now. Thanks, Zan! AHHHH HEMMMM.....I want a thank you too!!! (for backing up ZAN!!! ... and I'm NOT leaving till I get one!!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by ellwood: "I'll surely add tapping to my evaluation sequence now. Thanks, Zan! AHHHH HEMMMM.....I want a thank you too!!! (for backing up ZAN!!! ... and I'm NOT leaving till I get one!!! O.K., O.K...... Hey Elwood...... LMAO!!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by ellwood: "I'll surely add tapping to my evaluation sequence now. Thanks, Zan! AHHHH HEMMMM.....I want a thank you too!!! (for backing up ZAN!!! ... and I'm NOT leaving till I get one!!! Ah.... take your short wave tower and stick it..... in your back yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by mdrs: So, not to beat a dead horse, but.... basically Zan, you are saying that we should do some tapping like EVH does in his playing, and if the tapping results in a nice ringing resonant sound coming from the electric played acoustically, then you've got a good axe..... Did I get it right??? I think I've now established myself as both a Guitaraholic, AND AS GUITARDED!!! i don't mean tapping triplets in the standard format like fretting notes with right hand. i just try the tapped harmonics to see if the guitar is sensitive enough to pick up less in your face notes. and i don't no if it is a valid way to judge. but i do it. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Madness Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 The tapped harmonic method of evaluating a guitar resonance is a very interesting concept: thanks 'Zan!!! (and yes Ellwood, I also appreciate that you seconded the motion ). As mentioned by you guys, I always test the guitars unplugged for a long time before considering plugging 'em in. For a Les Paul, it looks like it's gonna be a long quest but I can exercise patience (most of the time). Whenever I find it, I'll also try a wider padded strap as it apparently makes a big difference in comfort for a Paul. Thanks for this discussion everyone, much appreciated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Rhino....does the TOS act up when you put the weight on your shoulder, or is it related to the position of your arm? Which arm is it? I couldn't figure out how to PM you...so forgive me for asking on the thread... PM me if you'd like.....I'm not a TOS expert, but know a little.... Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by Rhino Madness: The tapped harmonic method of evaluating a guitar resonance is a very interesting concept: thanks 'Zan!!! (and yes Ellwood, I also appreciate that you seconded the motion ). As mentioned by you guys, I always test the guitars unplugged for a long time before considering plugging 'em in. For a Les Paul, it looks like it's gonna be a long quest but I can exercise patience (most of the time). Whenever I find it, I'll also try a wider padded strap as it apparently makes a big difference in comfort for a Paul. Thanks for this discussion everyone, much appreciated!!! Thank you Rhino...OH watch out for the T-Bird! LOL! http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/ellwood1/road_boarder.jpg http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 cool pic Lee, i dig that. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan: cool pic Lee, i dig that. Hay thanks Zan! our drummer did that one and we use it all the time on stuff!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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