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How "good" will modeling amps become?


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IMO modelling amps will never sound as good as true tube amps. It cannot be duplicated with transistors. Not against SS amps at all, but science shows it can't be done, at least not yet, and if we haven't figured it out yet I'd be surprised if we ever do. It's a shame too considering how finnicky and fragile tubes can be...
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Originally posted by Warthog:

IMO modelling amps will never sound as good as true tube amps. It cannot be duplicated with transistors.

Can it be duplicated in digital with a DSP (or software)?

 

Look at the DI signal that comes out of your guitar and compare it to the digital recording in your DAW. Lots of things have been done to your DI -- amp, mic, preamp, ADC, etc. -- but it probably ends up 24-bit/44.1kHz (or better). Is it possible to start with the DI signal and transform (model) it directly to what you end up with in your DAW?

 

[Ok, I just noticed you said tube amps.]

 

Assuming they can get the sound right in the studio, would a transparent PA be able to reproduce the tube sound accurately? What if the digitization were 96-bit/2048kHz, i.e. considerably better than what is available today?

 

Pro photographers are routinely using high-quality digital cameras now instead of film. These are considerably better (and more expensive) than consumer digital cameras. Yet when the first digital cameras came out, they were no substitute for film. May the same revolution come to pro audio, replacing analog with digital? (In some ways it already has.)

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Originally posted by RicBassGuy:

Pro photographers are routinely using high-quality digital cameras now instead of film. These are considerably better (and more expensive) than consumer digital cameras. Yet when the first digital cameras came out, they were no substitute for film. May the same revolution come to pro audio, replacing analog with digital? (In some ways it already has.)

When's the last time you bought magnetic tape? ;)

 

But the ananlogy breaks down because the camera is the recorder, the source material is still light reflected off given objects. The guitar amp is the source, so the fact that the modelers are so close is actually ahead of digital imaging. When the characters in a Pixar film are indistiguishable from a live actor in a regular film, then we'll be talking about the source.

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Originally posted by Billster:

When's the last time you bought magnetic tape? ;)

Good point. Soon we'll have a generation that has never been exposed to cassette tape, is mystified as to why the digital player has a "rewind" control instead of "fast backward", and has no clue how to load paper into a typewriter. :freak::D

 

(Seriously, though, good point.)

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