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Thank you all again. I thought about buying a single TS312 and see how it sounds with the Legend Live. But does the overall sound change drastically when connected in mono to a single speaker instead of two? Or is it a viable solution?

Yes ! They both come w/ the typical "show up" 2000W Class-D bi-amp spec. That´s not bad, just only like alll the others do too. It´s enough power anyway and there should be much headroom. Did you read my post above ? Size, weight, minor different low end and SPL. See yourself ... Alto TS310 Alto TS312 sub ... if you want one ... Alto TS312S look carefully for the detailed specs bottom of each site. Have in mind, when you´r not in europe and pay in dollars,- you won´t pay the 19% VAT included in Thomann EUR prices. These toys are much cheaper in the US than in europe. A.C. Thank you again! Unfortunately I'm in Italy, so that doesn't apply to me. I thought I might go ahead and buy one TS310 and if I'm satisfied with the way it sounds I'll buy a second one. One last question: what kind of cables do I need to buy separately? Or do the necessary ones already come with the speakers? Thank you.

I never said I recommend that bundle. I only said Thomann TheBox Achat is the budget speaker series being 1 level higher than the very cheap ones (from the vid) originally posted above. When you play organ ONLY (!!!) Aspen/Pittman Spacestation v3 is a good option,- it isn´t for all kind of keyboards/synths and MIDI modules. And it´s better w/ a sub, where you´d have to look for something offering (@ approx. 100 -120Hz high-pass filtered outputs, these running to SSv3 inputs then. So, you´d run from the stereo (balanced) out of the organ into the sub 1st. But it can be, the organ doesn´t offer enough output level to drive the subs inputs which are typically +4dB line level,- so you might need a preamp in addition or some -10dB to +4dB level shifter,- or a small mixer (when using more keys). The SSv3 sounds not very good for acoustic piano sounds. I myself, I´d buy a pair of Alto TS310 w/ padded covers for under EUR 600,- and see. The TS310 have lots of good customer reviews and the 312 doesn´t go much lower. The TS310´s frequency response is 54Hz - 20KHz @+/-3dB and it´s frequency range is 48Hz - 22 KHz @ +/- 10dB,- vs TS312 43Hz -20KHz (+/-3dB) and 46Hz and 22KHz (+/-10dB). A low end 11Hz difference @ +/-3dB and only 2Hz @ +/-10dB. SPL is 126dB continuous vs 128dB (TS312). The x-over point is 2.5Khz for the tweeter,- that´s good because they don´t put almost everything on the horn !!! Some have a x-over point of 1.2KHz which is crap ! With the TS310, you´d need a sub only when kickin´ bass pedals,- or couple pedal-drawbars to lower manual for LH-bass replacing the bass player in a band. Same rules for the TS312. You save weight, size and money w/ the TS310. But I also read a german comparative test @Amazona, done by a FOH and studio engineer w/ some reputation who often do these tests for Amazona,- and the result was very good. That´s why I said you´d have to spend much more money when you want something significantly better. These speakers keep up w/ lower budget ranges of EV, JBL, RCF. For some it´s a problem Alto uses some proprietary parts for their gear,- so DIY repair is problematic. But I think that rules for many others too becaue today, when something fails, you´ll have to ship it to an authorized service center anyway. The TS310 is compact and relatively lightweight. To keep ´em lookin´ good you´d need the covers, at least for transport. You can gig w/ ´em in future too. They are good enough for keyboard monitors. And,- speakers are always a matter of taste too. So,- when you don´t like ´em ... Thomann has a very good return policy (and maybe other dealers too !). And, you´re free ordering the cheapo solution from the vid AND a pair of TS310, then keep what you like and return the other. No biggie. I don´t gig anymore, but when I did, I´d buy exactly these. When gigging/touring, they keys run into a PA for the audience in addition anyway. A.C. Thank you so much, you've been really exhaustive. With both TS310 and TS312 you wouldn't need any amp since they're active monitors, right? Also, aside from being one 12'' and the other 10'' is there any significant difference between TS310 and TS312? Thank you again.

I forgot to mention the Alto TS 312 which also seemed like a good option

I could consider that for the near future but for right now I gotta stick with that budget. So it's one of these three: JBL Control 1 the box PA M 12 ECO MKII the box Pro Achat 104 bundle What do you think?

Guys, thank you all for your answers. I'm kinda torn between choosing either these (if I'm correct Al Coda you were referring to this bundle, even though I can't find the same bundle but with 2 speakers instead of 4) and the solution that Woody proposed.

If it's for organ and nothing else, at that point, I'd rather get the Spacestation at 999 . I think this is a good option and if the OP is looking at Thomann for equipment, they have a package with an SSv3 and a subwoofer. This will work well in the near term and further down the road. https://www.thomann.de/it/aspen_pittman_designs_spacestation_v.3_sub_bundle.htm?ref=intl&shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiaXQiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6MiwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOiJpdCJ9 Thank you, I'm looking it up now!

just only FYI ... That cheapo speaker is 8 Ohms and handles 175 watts RMS and the amp in that vid outputs 45 watts RMS into 8 Ohms. IMO that´s a wrong combination. Ideally the amp should give equal or more power than the speaker handles,- just because the amp should control the speaker and not the opposite. A clipping 45 watts amp will destroy a speaker even it handles 175 watts RMS. The low end of the organ will saturate the amp quickly ! And you don´t know which speakers/tweeters are used in that cheap cab. Possibly no name brand chinese crap. Thomann offers better speakers under their own brand,- the TheBox "Achat" series which is cheap too,- and there are also active (build in bi-amp) ones available. There is also an affordable 12" active sub available. Prices are all hard to beat. And yes, when buying all passive,- speakers and sub,- you´ll have to buy poweramps. And have in mind you´l NEED enough power for low end (bass) ! When I needed a relatively cheap but good sounding active stereo system for keys,- I´d consider a pair of Alto TS310 and the Alto TS312S subwoofer (plus covers for transport). But that´s a EUR 850,- - EUR 900,- investment already and even I´d call it the most affordable system in relation to performance. When deciding against a sub,- I´d still go w/ the active TS310 for keys because the difference is not that big compared to the TS312. You can add a sub later, when needed (at all). In use, it´s a big difference if you use these systems as PA or for keyboard monitoring. Everything better is more expensive, Yamaha, EV, QSC, RCF ... A.C. Do you mean this?

Correct! And for me too since I would like to learn how to play the organ. But I mean it would be mainly for home use, not for professional one.

just only FYI ... That cheapo speaker is 8 Ohms and handles 175 watts RMS and the amp in that vid outputs 45 watts RMS into 8 Ohms. IMO that´s a wrong combination. Ideally the amp should give equal or more power than the speaker handles,- just because the amp should control the speaker and not the opposite. A clipping 45 watts amp will destroy a speaker even it handles 175 watts RMS. The low end of the organ will saturate the amp quickly ! And you don´t know which speakers/tweeters are used in that cheap cab. Possibly no name brand chinese crap. Thomann offers better speakers under their own brand,- the TheBox "Achat" series which is cheap too,- and there are also active (build in bi-amp) ones available. There is also an affordable 12" active sub available. Prices are all hard to beat. And yes, when buying all passive,- speakers and sub,- you´ll have to buy poweramps. And have in mind you´l NEED enough power for low end (bass) ! When I needed a relatively cheap but good sounding active stereo system for keys,- I´d consider a pair of Alto TS310 and the Alto TS312S subwoofer (plus covers for transport). But that´s a EUR 850,- - EUR 900,- investment already and even I´d call it the most affordable system in relation to performance. When deciding against a sub,- I´d still go w/ the active TS310 for keys because the difference is not that big compared to the TS312. You can add a sub later, when needed (at all). In use, it´s a big difference if you use these systems as PA or for keyboard monitoring. Everything better is more expensive, Yamaha, EV, QSC, RCF ... A.C. Thank you so much, I'll look into those options. But I really don't know how to decide since I know nothing about sound systems

So do you think the Thomann loudspeakers (in my previous comment) paired with a decent subwoofer could work? Also, do I still need to buy the amplifier right?

Thank you so much. I've now realized that you're the one who posted both the video-review of the Legend Live and that of the PA M 12 ECO MKII, so I think you would recommend that setup, right?

Yeah I figured the same ahahah thank you. But right now I don't think I can do better within that price range, hopefully in the future I will be able to buy better equipment for it. But for now, as long as it does a good job in emulating the Hammond sound, that's good!

After a little bit of research I've found this setup that's shown in video. He uses two of these PA speakers and this amp. The whole thing would cost around 260 which would be a bargain for me. What do you think of it? Thank you again.

Thank you! Right now my main concern is understand what else I should be buying beside the keyboard to create a good setup overall.