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My twist: IF I did the gig, I’d leave my equipment there, but I’d stay there the entire time (festivals can be enjoyable), and store my 88-note keyboard in a hard case on the stage.
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I’ve been using the MOXF8 (several of them actually) for many years, and unfortunately, that appears to be how it is designed to work. Yup, I wish I could seamlessly switch voices (“voice hold”), but that is not a feature of this keyboard. However, what I do is go into “Performance Mode” where you can have up to 4 voices, and then you can easily switch any or all of the voices instantly on or off (Or turn on a new voice before shutting off the other voice)…in Performance Mode, they are the buttons over on the far lower right side labeled “Part Mute”, button numbers 9, 10, 11 & 12. I think this is the best work-around.
Also, what some people do is go into “Song” mode, where you can have up to 16 voices (1 for each track)….(or assign them to different MIDI channels and then change your “send” MIDI channel) and then choose which track you want to play (but that is not my preferred method for live performing).
Hope that helps.
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On 12/1/2023 at 8:28 PM, OB Dave said:
It's gorgeous but I bet the utility bills are brutal.
And the tax bills.... if you look at Zillow... the last owner was paying property tax on a value of $181K!!!! The new owner will have to pay tax on the purchase value!
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7 hours ago, MathOfInsects said:
And also...just why??
This is not a keyboard for the lactose-intolerant.Well, frankly, simply for the novelty! I can hear any local audience just oohing and aaawwwing were they to walk in and see such a keyboard. I think it would really get some attention (if nothing else than for its novelty)! But, again, no venue I'm currently playing in could spare such a large amount of real estate. OK, yes, I need to play more stadiums...
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10 hours ago, Radagast said:
Why stop there?
….because it would take up WAY TOO MUCH stage real estate in most local venues. (I believe it’s 6 feet in diameter.). Fine for stadiums, but I think that would be about it! (Not to mention the transport, set-up and tear-down effort!)
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Kind of related: I often play in a band where the guitarist believes he’s playing at a reasonable level (he’s not, but let’s just say he might be) - but he has his amp firing up into his microphone, that he leaves on all the time…. so he is actually quite loud out of the FOH PA (and monitors). (More rationale supporting the use of IEMs!). This is a recent development, in that previously he fired his amp down low, through his shins, thus determining his volume by the reflection volume from the rear wall of the venue…. ugh!
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I have always played and performed only sitting. For me, I utilize the sustain pedal greatly in my style of play, as well as utilizing most of the 88-note keyboard. Both techniques require me to be seated when playing.
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1 hour ago, Dave Ferris said:
If I were still doing rock/ pop/ r&b gigs strictly for the dough and was in that mindset of - get in, get out, no one gets hurt- I would definitely get a MS amp for that purpose.
As things are now, I'm highly selective on what I do take and most of the time know what to expect upon arrival. Things are more relaxed, I'm enjoying the music more instead of looking at my watch every 15 minutes. My CP88, JMK Audio JM-110 and pair of RCF TT-08A mk2s take up very little space and sound great. There's no longer a rush to set up or tear down and get the F out of there as quickly as possible like my MO for decades.
I do have a lot of dough invested in my set up, it sure doesn't coincide with the monetary compensation, but it makes my overall experience much more fun and fulfilling.
Wow - I bet that sound is absolutely pristine! Just wondering what digital piano a pianist of your caliber is using?
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3 hours ago, Delaware Dave said:
motion sound is pretty non-responsive and i would be hesitant to purchase anything from them. monitors are preferable to me however i like the built-in mixer of keyboard amps. my old kb300 had 3 inputs, all channels had individual 3 band EQ's and each one had assignable reverb amounts. cons were it sounded like @ss and was 81 pounds. if they could make a monitor with the keyboard mixer of my old kb300 built in then you'd have a true winner for keyboardists since having to use a mixer is just another thing to carry, setup/breakdown and potentially not work. But, until that happens, I would still go monitor over a k/b amp.
I have to strongly disagree. Before and after my purchase, I found them very responsive, and this was recently. I also am in the Motion Sound camp. IMO, my new KP-612SX is hands-down the best amplification I’ve ever had for digital piano. Simply clean and powerful, excellent, balanced tone. Built-in mixer, and one combo unit pushing out excellent stereo (with the amount of stereo spread being adjustable). For me, it’s the keyboard amp I always dreamed of. And when I couple it with it’s extension speaker, the SL-512, you can seriously drown out the guitarist (if you want to)!
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FWIW, I’m using Logic Pro on my MacBook Pro running “Sonoma”, OS version 14.1.1 with no problems.
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4 minutes ago, KuruPrionz said:
I agree with you 100%!
I was in a Motown cover band, they were careful to not call it a "tribute" band. 6 pieces cannot reproduce an original Motown production, it's not possible.
Sometimes I gig as a solo singer/acoustic guitarist - the audience likes to hear all sorts of songs in all sorts of genres. No way a single acoustic guitar is going to sound like a completed recording.
I may be over-stepping my boundaries but it seems to me that the "just like the record" crowd lacks imagination and to a certain extent, talent. It could be that they were classically trained? That can be a barrier to playing music that is not classical, jazz and pop both come to mind as open to interpretation. I can't count the number of times I've heard major bands with lots of album sales play their songs differently than the albums. When I saw David Bowie, he had Adrian Belew on guitar. They played a broad cross section of Bowie's catalog and Adrian was allowed to play the guitar the way he plays the guitar, he didn't copy Mick Ronson to play the songs from Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars, just for one example.
If the successful major label artists can re-invent their own songs, we should all be able to do that. A recording is a document of a moment in time and not a requirement.
EXACTLY!, right? Oh, THANK YOU!….. so well stated!
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Forgive me for venting on this all-too-often discussed subject. But I’m once again upset by some band members whose benchmark of quality musicianship is “sounding exactly like the original recording”. I submit that, if what the audience wants is “the original recording”, then they want a DJ, not a live band. I also suppose this closely aligns with the subject of using “backing tracks” discussed on another recent thread here. IMO, live music can and should be so much more than just “regurgitating the original recording”. I feel better now, even if I am in the minority. 😃
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1 hour ago, AnotherScott said:
The specs make it pretty clear that it has an FM engine. And the only way to have the "exact sound of an actual DX7" would be for it to have an FM engine.
S.Art3?
I think he’s referring to Yamaha’s “Articulation” = additional effects that help an instrument sound more “real” (like an air sound on a sax, or the vibrato, harmonics on a guitar string, etc.).
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So I can’t help but think of all the opinions in this thread as I read the other thread on the new Genos 2! Seems to me that playing the Genos is some kind of variant of using backing tracks, or looping, or maybe even using a drum machine, etc….
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How about the K&M 18820 = the same as your 18810, but does fold up. (That’s what I use when playing out - heavy but rock solid.)
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Well, as I previously stated in other threads on this forum, I’ve been very pleased with my new Motion Sound KP-612SX. One unit, self-contained mixer, and stereo (angled out left and right), and it has casters so I wheel it in and out.
[Full disclosure, I’ve also added its matching extension “slave” cabinet, the Motion Sound SL512, and IMO it’s phenomenal.]
But the KP-612SX is fine by itself for all but the loudest rock and roll band, IMO.
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I never listen to videos more than a few minutes….. an hour and 15 minutes later I was still watching this one. Absolutely captivating to me! Thanks for sharing.
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Just got what Motion Sound calls the “slave” to my Motion Sound KP-612SX. The “slave”, Motion Sound model SL512, is an extension speaker that uses the 2nd amp in the KP-612SX (500 watts RMS X 2 = 1000 watts). As Jim Alfredson would say: “It’s a screamer!”
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OK, but he sure can play. And it gives one a good idea of how Steinways sound (compared to say, a Yamaha equivalent). To my ears, the bass and extreme treble have quite different sounds between the different manufacturers.
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Just my 2 cents: The wind problem (& many others) are easily solved by viewing the lead sheets on an iPad or the like. It’s faster (finding the tune, and then turning pages if necessary), clearer, and way easier to transport 1000 songs of sheet music than physically carrying it all in paper. I made the switch years ago, and can verify that it’s way better than carrying arm loads of paper. You may need to initially scan them, but then you’ll have them easily thereafter.
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Agree the band volume is excessive, but I’m not in control of them. Yes, we/they were playing VERY (too) loud, acknowledged. I was trying to provide some explanation (a “limiter”) for the original poster. At least the “limiting” occurs very quickly, and recovers quickly with thereafter no further volume or sound quality impact.
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Well, I’m the one who wrote a ravingly positive review of my new Motion Sound KP-612SX. I still think it’s exceptional. However, did a gig last night where when I was playing, for example, extremely LOUD brass/horn stabs, it shuts down. I haven’t deciphered the exact recovery time yet, but it’s not TOO long. I’ve found that if I just shut it off and turn it back on, the (what I assume to be a “limiter” of some sort) amp resets and works perfectly fine, with no distortion, and loud. Then I just backed off on the brass volume a bit, and all was fine. To be clear - it is very LOUD, and continues to have that capacity (while maintaining a respectably good, quality sound). But it seems there is a limit - I’d think to probably protect the speakers when being driven so hard as to damage them.
In this particular instance, due to the small stage size, my MS KP-612SX got pushed in a difficult location, on the floor, off angle, being partially blocked by the drums, and several musicians legs, etc. In other words, IMO it was being asked to do a Herculean job competing with drums, other amps and PA system in a loud classic rock band. I have another live gig next Friday, and will be watching closely for any shut-downs (and recovery time if it happens again). But to repeat, even after the shut-offs (limiters?), once recovered, it continues to operate at full volume with no distortion. And I’ve played through it at home afterwards, and wow is it loud and clear. Actually, amazes me how loud the band must be for me to drive this thing that hard! I think better placement will solve any problem - but if not, I’ll be giving Motion Sound a call to see what’s up.
I may even need to get the matching extension cabinet, but then I’ll have a real “stage space” problem again (which was one of my main reasons for buying this particular amp) (although I realize I could probably just stack them).
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Here’s the best solution I’ve found: “CREEPNOMORE”. I bought several of these years ago, don’t know if they’re still available, but it works great for me. If not available any longer, the concept is simple enough to just make yourself. Or just attach a long piece of felt to the bottom of the sustain pedal. The weight of your heel simply keeps it in place pretty well. YMMV.
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I’m holding out as long as I can = my protest against subscriptions.
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Would a keyboard amp or better speakers solve my issue?
in The Keyboard Corner
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Well, I’m sure someone will correct me if incorrect, but I think your “volume vs trim” issue stems from a lack of understanding about how an amp works. My understanding is that, basically, an amp always amplifies at full volume. Volume is controlled basically by the amount / level of input into the amp / pre-amp. Thus, call it “trim” or “volume”, ultimately all one is doing is throttling the amount of input to the amp. My simplistic understanding FWIW.