OldKnave
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Following up on using an FC7 expression pedal with Ashby adapter on VR-09: Good news is it works. So, I can return the EV-5 and get back the $40 I spent. Plus, construction of the FC7 is more durable making it a better choice for gigging, IMO. Bad news is it did not improve the action. I suspect this is due to how VR-09 handles swell and volume acceleration internally. Slight movement in the pedal creates large changes in volume (up or down) making it hard to adjust to the proper level when playing live with a band. It may just be a matter of getting used to the swell action on the VR-09. My Yamaha MM6 had a whole different feel to it. I certainly recommend the Ashby adapter if you want to use an FC7 with VR-09 or other non-Yammie keyboards.
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Follow-up: I used suggestions from you and Brenner13 and it sounds great! Very close to the Vox Continental shown in the video. I also found an old video on YouTube of The Animals playing House of the Rising Sun, and the sound tweaks you suggested beat the one from Roland. Thanks again.
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MOXF here. Pianos and EPs are great, the Flash Board allows more waves to be added. Layers, splits, and editing easy ONCE you get the hang of Yamahas OS. MOX Organs, thats where it fails and crashes.The rotary FX just doesn't cut it for one. You can assign the organs hard right and use a vent/burn etc but you have to disable the system and master FX because they default to stereo only and some of the LH panned voices will bleed through the FX into the organ output. Also a lot of the voicings have percussion built into the wave with no way to edit them. The VR09 is the choice for B3 even with the percussion going thru the C/V Appreciate the feedback on MOXF. I think I will stay with VR-09 since it was the Hammond clone and twin roatary that I wanted most, along with transistor organ / drawbars. Thanks.
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Thanks so much Craig for this awesome advice. Never thought to adjust the treble on my amp... I will definitely try this. Also appreciate the video link. I think it will get me as close as possible to the Vox Continental, which was a classic in it's time. I did notice that the sound set Roland created on Axiel has a Rising Sun sample which wasn't too bad IMO. My band mates think I'm being anal ... but what do they know about keyboard players :-))
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DanL ... in another post someone suggested that the VR-09 uses midii cc to control expression and does not have a built in swell function. That may be it or it could be I just am not used to it yet. I still like the construction of my Yamaha FC7 better so I ordered the inexpensive adapter from Ashby so I can use it instead. Won't know if this will have any effect on the action but at least it will allow me to use the pedal I already own and like. I will post results after I get it. Thanks.
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Thanks, Brenner13, for your sharing your experience and advice. I will try what you suggested re transistor organ sound. This is helpful since our band plays tons of stuff from the British invasion era when the Vox Continental was all the rage. That was one reason why I bought the VR-09 because it offered a transistor organ sound with drawbar adjustment. I'm not totally disappointed since I can still get it to sound better than anything else I've tried. Even so, I still find it very difficult to duplicate the original Vox sound.
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Thanks for your response, Craig. I may just need to learn how to use the VR-09 better. I am still playing around with all the tweaks and volume adjustments. When I go from say a heavily distorted organ to soft strings, I need to really crank it up. The EV-5 expression pedal isn't much help. Not used to adjusting the volume knob when trying to play with both hands. Guess it's all about learning curve.
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Got a VR-09 and used it last night on a gig with my classic rock band. It replaces a Yamaha MM6 which I use on top of a CP-33 stage piano. Whereas the Hammond organ and tone wheel sounded good, I had a hard time getting the Transistor Organ or the synth voices (especially dual layered voices) to punch through over my usually loud guitar players. BTW, the EV-5 expression pedal is worthless. I am ordering an adapter so I can use my Yamaha FC7 pedal instead. Not completely dissatisfied with the VR-09, and I can't afford a Nord Electro. Might try the new Yamaha MOXF6 instead before my return period runs out on the VR-09. Anyone have any experience using the MOXF on stage?