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Probably not what you had in mind, but it might scratch that itch for a while:
Youll need an iOS device, the SynthMaster Player app, and the Historic Synth Giants, Vol. 2 preset pack. Some are closer than others, but its fun...
Wow! That was cool to listen to! Thanks, that really satisfies my ears! I don't know if I want to invest money into all that, but I will read up on that product...
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Hi everyone,
Not sure if there is something like this out there...
I have recently been listening to a few ELP records over and over, and I suddenly realized that deep down I am really just a Moog guy. I've flirted with lots of analog gear over the years (Moog, Dave Smith, Korg, Roland) but really what I want to hear is those gigantic, ripping Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery Sounds. Do you know what I mean? Keith patched a certain way, very fundamental sounding and not too evolving, but very recognizable. (Hard to describe it properly...)
I own nothing Moog at the moment, but do have lots of "Moogy" things (Monark, The Legend, V collection, etc...)
As I go through all the different Moog software I own, for every ten that make me go "meh...whatever", there's that one patch where I go, "Oh yeah!" And I realized, lately, those patches that turn me on are of an invariably Keith Emerson flavor, or a retro/early/vintage sound.
I want to have that sound coming out of my keyboards all the time! Do any readers know of a patch book where I could learn/patch Keith Emerson's signature sounds?
Thanks in advance
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Very cool - I love Mellotrons!
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Thanks everyone. (I will check Full Compass as well...)
I did a short "chat" with ProAudioStar on their site, and it looks like I might be able to save quite a bit. I think as Canadians we're getting hosed somewhere...unless stores are desperate for business? What an eye-opener.
My question now involves duties, etc. I think that might deserve a new thread. Thank you all for chiming in, without your suggestions I would not have known any U.S. sites to look at.
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The price they offer is quite nice! I've never done shipping something so large/expensive from the USA - I always figured the shipping costs will make it prohibitive.
Also, whenever I read the words: "import duties or taxes upon receipt" I don't know how to begin. Without knowing what those charges will be means I can't proceed. I wish all that stuff could be known ahead of time...
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Thanks for the tip! - (I'm in Canada )
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Thanks again for all the points. I think I will wait for a deal on a Stage 3 Compact. It's a current item, so there's no hurry to buy.
I'll just patiently watch and wait...
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The seller is listing the Stage2 ex as the 73SW compact model.
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Thank you so much for all the replies. So perhaps the Stage 2EX is close to fair price or maybe a bit high. I will keep these points in mind.
Actually, I had a good play today on both the Electro 6D and the Stage 3 on my way home from work. I think I need one of those now. Man, those Mellotron and synth samples are just crazy fun! I added a little of the "Vibe" effect and some reverb...I might as well have been playing a synthesizer!
Ugh, they're so nice!
Regarding the price, I wish I could find a Stage 3 for $4000 CAD! ($3000 USD was mentioned above...)
The CAD dollar is so weak, it's hard to imagine me paying $5500 for the Stage 3. It really is frustrating and infuriating. (Good thing this is only a hobby, I mean I don't really need any of this. But I sure do love it and the pleasure it brings me!)
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Hi everyone,
Hope it's not a silly question, but I thought I would pick the brains of the collective group. I'm looking to upgrade from my Stage "Classic", but I can't find many Stage 2's for sale near me...
The one that is near to me (kijiji) the seller is asking $3600 CAD for a Stage 2EX. I can't help but feel this is too expensive, unless that's what they're selling for?
Any thoughts? Buyer/seller stories?
(Just to put it in perspective, the Nord Stage 3 Compact 76 sells for $4999 CAD)
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This is very cool!
I can't believe Brian isn't more well known. Each time I mention his name to musicians I meet, often they don't know him. I love to introduce his music to people...
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...this is a simulation of the key contacts.
Very cool! I had not yet played the B-5 softly but, now that I did, you can hear the initial different contact. For those who have played a real Hammond, you will know what it is!
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I listened to most of the online demos and I didn't hear 888000000, scanner vibrato on C3, Leslie slow or off, and sustaining one note.
I too struggled to find this fundamental Hammond setting, and was unable to find a sound example of it! I bought B-5 regardless.
There is a lot of fun to be had with this simulation! I prefer a "brighter" sounding organ, and there are EQ tweaks avail in the speaker EQ section.
I think the Chorus/Vibrato "3" played without Leslie is fantastic...there is virtually nothing that separates it the real Hammonds I have known. When played through the Leslie simulation, it sounds a bit different to me. I get the impression there is possibly some amplitude vibrato as opposed to only pitch vibrato? Also, on a couple of chords I have played, there is the impression there is trilling going on. That is to say, possibly one note is at a different point in the vibrato C/V circuit?
Not sure if I am imagining it, and I have not exhausted all the different Rotary Cab simulations yet. There is a lot included!
C/V is the most important part of the Hammond sound for me, so I have to admit I am hard to please and, perhaps, overly focused on this point. All in all, very pleased with the purchase, and even more so with the update. It addresses some very key points.
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I'm trying the PSP B-Scanner Demo download (14 days trial).
Everytime I click on one of the graphics/parameters to edit something, the image disappears and I can't edit anything. Some sort of glitch?
(edit - I just tried using the 32-bit version, this time it was a bit more stable and I was able to adjust some parameters. Sounds very nice, but ultimately all I do is use it on C3! All that tweakability!?)
LX88 brings up a very good point - I guess you'd need to run:
1) An organ Model, then
2) A scanner Vibrato Model, (with percussion after if possible?)
3) Then a Leslie Model,
4) then some reverb...
...whew!...
(My main interest would be using and improving the C/V on Acoustic Samples B5, and Native Instruments Vintage Organs. I don't think VB3 needs any help in the C/V section.)
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Thanks for the post, EscapeRocks.
I have tried all the free Roland Cloud stuff a few times today, and I was prompted more than once to authorize. (I can't remember when exactly, but my feeling is that it might require you to log-in on different sessions perhaps?)
Can I add something? My impressions today are that the whole affair sounds and feels kind of "blah" I feel like there is so many VSTs already that cover this kind of poly-synth stuff. I can't imagine how Roland is going to compete asking the price that they are...
Although there was one VST that sounded interesting - the System 8. I want to explore that further.
I already have Arturia's Jupiter, so I don't feel like I need any more.
Will watch the thread to see other player's opinions.
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I'm trying to figure out how this "cloud" works.
Once I have downloaded the Jupiter 8 and System 8 VST, they are on my computer to use. What am I paying for at that point?
Do they expire? Do they require me logging-in (or internet access) to use?
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I see VST Buzz Deals has sent me an email this morning saying B5 Organ is 50% off for a limited time...
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Melting Pot by Booker T & MGs comes to mind...
Very cool - I will give that a listen to. (I bet there's lots of reverberated Leslie recordings out there that I don't know. I'm probably going to be dragged over the coals now! :
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Arno stated that they are working on... a "big sonic update."
I wonder if it's going to be a Leslie "tweak"? I don't have a big issue with the B5 Leslie sim, but I read a lot of people aren't thrilled with it.
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Reverb is before leslie because thats how the spring reverb is routed in a real hammond.
I understand that...but who wants to do that? It sounds plain weird. I think I recall one record where jimmy McGriff (or someone else) was using a Leslie with reverb and it sounded horrible. With the leslie on fast, it sounded like he was underwater! I would be interested to hear if anyone else has used reverb before a Leslie in Hammond recordings. Ethel Grumblinski and the Burlington Mormon choir doesn't count.
I'm sure there's some model Hammonds that have spring reverb, but only for using with on-board speakers. (Like L101, M3, A100, etc...)
Anyone using an A100 will have the Leslie running without any reverb going into it.
Please, give us spring reverb models when we want the Hammond without a rotating speaker, and a proper ambient hall/studio/plate after the Leslie when we want some space...
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Thanks for your help
I want to really give this B5 a good try to see if it's a fit for me. When I first got it, I thought, "Yeah baby!"
Then an hour later, I was, "Hmmm...not sure..."
I would love to find a virtual Hammond that does it all for "my ears". Everyone seems to have certain points they are particular about.
The UVI player host has excellent effects you can add after the B5 VST...I have been using an EQ to make it sound less-muffled, as well as some post-reverb. (Why Hammond VSTs often use reverb before the Leslie always baffles me! NI's vintage Organs, VB3, and this B5...)
The one thing that always stands out when using the B5 program is the Chorus/vibrato on C3. I use that C/V almost exclusively, but I feel like I am hearing some amplitude tremolo as well as the Chorus vibrato...does anyone else hear that?
It sounds off to me.
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Thank you for the tips,
I kind of figured that would be how I would run B5 with another VST effect. But I can't see how UVI will run in a host?
I use VSTHost, and I don't see any UVI .dll's that I can open in that host. Unless I am looking in the wrong place?
(**Edit - arrrgh - never mind. I found the UVI .dll! Hidden in many layers of folders...program files/steinberg/vst plugins...)
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A quick question - the B5 program by Acoustic Samples is called a "VSTi". Does that mean it is a VST?
I have only been able to run it in the UVI Workstation player. But, if it was a VST, could I run it in a VST host? I would like to try different VST rotary simulations after B5, but I can't figure out how to.
I am specifically trying to figure out how to use Melda's Vintage Rotary simulation with B5...
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Keith Emerson Sounds - is There a Moog Patch Book?
in The Keyboard Corner
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This was actually very helpful - I rarely think of opening the filter "all-the-way" and I'm always over-thinking things when twisting knobs. Tonight I just set up two sawtooths and de-tuned them...very nice! I think that's what I was trying to describe in my original post, in that Keith wasn't really doing a lot of programming or modulation. Rather, he used basic tones and just let them rip. I think that fundamental sound is so appealing after swimming in modern electronica for so long...