Winston Psmith

@Caevan - Put a Volume pedal in that line-up somewhere, so you can 'swell' the Feedback effect in and out. I find the Volume pedal to be a great assist with the E-Bow, as well. Also, a Volume pedal following your Looper will allow you to fade out Looped material. Some Loopers have a Fade-out feature, or a function that lets you play to the end of the loop, but too often, they just abruptly cut off the loop whenever you hit the switch. (Does the Strymon allow you to assign an Exp pedal to the Loop playback? I know the Boss doesn't.) FWIW, that Plus Pedal was too subtle for my taste; I could barely hear what it was doing. It seems like the FreqOut would cover much of that territory, with a little tweaking?

The Mel9 works very well with all of my Guitars, but it is fun pairing it with the 7-string, as it brings in two unexpected elements, playing in front of people: you don't often see a 7-string LP, even less one that sounds like a Mellotron! What I've done, so far, is to create a handful of patches in my GT-10 that allow me to run a chain of effects for straight Guitar signal on one (virtual) Channel, then have an effects chain for the Mel9 on the other Channel, with different, discrete effects & Amp models, for each signal chain, like having the Mel9 go through a Rotary effect and a short Delay, into a Full Range Amp model. (The GT-10 has dual Amp models and Noise Suppressors, and you can arrange or route your signal chain pretty much any way you like. I patch the Mel9 in through the GT-10's Send/Return.)

Caevan, I hope we can agree to disagree about the Synth9. Other than the Mel9, which I already have, this is the only other model in the series that calls to me. I'm with you on most of his examples, but what I really dislike about these demo videos is that they're over-produced, if that's the right word? In a few cases, we're hearing multi-tracked riffs, and in every example, that bloody Drum Machine is going in the background. I think a lot of folks are going to take the thing home and expect to sound like a band, from those videos! Can't find a purchase price anywhere yet, but I expect it'll be in the same $225+/- range as the others, coincidentally, right around the price of a Roland GK-3 Synth pickup. If you're NOT in need of deep programming or MIDI control, just looking for a few cool sounds, this is much easier and neater than glomming a Synth pickup onto a favorite Guitar.

That would qualify! You have to love how they 'distressed' the pedal, so it looks like it sounds . . .

Reminds me of the "Large Print" books we used to sell for the vision-impaired. That thing is bigger than ANY pedalboard I've ever hauled around.

Sounds like my weekend! Thanks for posting that, Dannyalcatraz, I'll try and dial up some of those sounds in my Delaylab.

No question, the DLX is one impressive pedal! However, the DLX is running around $325 everywhere, and I got the original model for $90 in trade value. Filter sweeps are pretty wide, as I said, more like a Synth Filter. Depending on which Filter type you're using, you can dial yourself out of the audio range pretty quickly. In some of the videos showing the original, you'll notice that the users very seldom dial the Freq knob to either extreme, because they get cut off. The Step/Rate combination is one of the coolest features possible, almost as weird as the Z.Vexx Seek Wah. The Delaylab can be viewed either as a souped-up DL4, or a stripped-down Eventide Time Factor. I lean towards the latter viewpoint, mostly because there's no MIDI nor USB connectivity; if you want to trade sounds with anyone, you'll need to work up an old-fashioned Patch Data Sheet. Still, don't know why this one escaped my attention when it first came out?

Looking in on Saturday morning, and that Guitar is already sold. Not surprising, that was a truly beautiful Guitar, in great shape. Ah, well . . . In the meantime, I traded out some gear yesterday and came home with a near-pristine Subdecay Prometheus, and an equally clean Vox Delaylab. I've been getting back into stacked Delays lately, and the Delaylab is a very nice addition. The Prometheus is pretty wild, more like a Synth Filter than your typical Envelope Filter pedal. Haven't had a really good Filter effect for a while, and this is even a little beyond what I expected. Here's a decent video of it. [video:youtube]

@Danzilla - that is a beautiful Guitar! If I had the cash on hand, I'd grab it, but sadly . . .

The Sustainer is a weird design, so you can still use the neck pickup without engaging the Sustainer; same thing with the Jackson Sustainac system. I would never want a Guitar with no neck pickup!

I could get very close to that tone with my old Boss Feedbacker pedal, and like Caevan says, at any volume level, or even through headphones. Admittedly, a far more impressive effect driving a live Amp. Much as I love my E-bow, that Fernandes Sustainer is the thing! IIRC, you can still buy the Sustainer system for $200-300(?), but then you have to have it installed, so you're either committing one Guitar to that sound, or buying a spare, plus the expense of the installation: I've seen used Montereys for $400-500, ready to go. Right now, the Dream Reaper and the Geiger Counter are the main contenders; if money were no object, I'd get both.

You and I are often following similar paths, from slightly different directions, brother! Just as we're both fans of Attack Delay devices, that Infinite Sustain thing has been part of my quest for some time. I wore out one E-Bow - the switch, at least - which I've replaced. I load up most of my GT patches with the Feedbacker effect, and I've been looking for a nice used Fernandes Montery with a Sustainer built in. +10 on the Volume Pedal: With just a Volume Pedal and an E-Bow, you can manage some monstrous sounds. I'd like to hear more about the various Bumblebee models? The Quantum Drive seems like it would go nicely with a Compressor and an Attack Delay, and it would be nice to have both functions in one pedal.

Still have my GT-3 . . . and an ME-25, a GT-6b, and a GT-10. I still use them all, especially for live set-ups. The Ring Mod in the GT processors is pretty sick, too. I also have four different Roland Guitar Synths . . . Looking more for a stand-alone, Pandora's Box kind of effect, a pestilence in pedal form. That Ampeg rig is very cool! Never seen one before, so many thanks for that!

@Larryz - Man, I would LOVE to get my paws on a Juno! If you really miss yours, you might want to look at this- Roland Ju-06. I've read very favorable reviews of this RI series, so it's worth looking into. There is a keyboard attachment available, as well - K-25m

I know whereof you speak. More than 2/3 of my pedal array consists of footswitches & Exp pedals, rather than sound effects, at this point. I use one of the king-size Pedaltrain pedalboards, just to hold all 10 controller pedals for my FX rack. Like Mr. Wilde said, "Nothing succeeds like Excess." Still, while I would never even consider jabbing a humpback in the junk with an Electric Bagpipe, I'm reasonably sure I can conjure the Song of the Sauropod with Intestinal Distress.

@Dannyalcatraz - try an EHX Freeze pedal, it's essentially a short duration Hold pedal. Works in either Latch or Momentary modes. Try putting it on either side of the CHK CHK Boom, see what happens. You could also try any Delay pedal with a Hold/Loop function, to capture the crazy sound at its peak. You would think they'd add an Exp In jack, for something like that? @Caevan - all good, brother, I realize not many folks here are into signal abuse. I really liked the WMD Geiger Counter CI, but it just made me want to keep an eye out for the full-size model. The Dream Reaper that showed up in the "New Effects" thread seemed close to what I want, something completely out there. Those were two that stood out. The new Digitech FreqOut looks like fun, too, although it's not quite in the same camp. I still miss my old Boss Feedbacker, and the FreqOut seems to cover that territory, and beyond. The faux E-Bow sound is very impressive. My main oddball box is a Digitech XP-300 Space Station; yes, really. It never leaves my Music room, especially now that they've gone up to $400/500 on Ebay!?!?!?! Nuts. The sounds are pretty cool, overall, and a number of them are truly unique; others, I might be able to reproduce with the right chain of effects, along with a Volume/Exp pedal, but there is no one box that will give me all those sounds in one place. However, both the Dream Reaper and the Geiger Counter have Exp/CV Inputs, which might get me closer. At the very least, I like the idea of real-time dynamic control over the effects, and an Expression Pedal adds that.

Never mind, no interest . . .

I have maybe half a dozen Delay effects, for trying to do that kind of thing. "Let's see, if I run the Reverse Delay into the Half-Speed Looper . . ."

I have one of the original Mini KP's, the little red one. The main difficulty in using it with Guitar is that you really need at least three hands; two to play the Guitar, and one to manipulate the Kaoss Pad. Lacking the 3rd appendage, I like using it to process loops . . .

+1. While I've moved more into Boss Multi-effects in the last few years, Boss pedals always held up well for me, and delivered consistent sound and build quality. I've been very excited to see the Waza Craft re-issues of the VB-2 Vibrato and the DM-2 Delay. Now, if they would only bring back the SG-2 Slow Gear . . .

Gotta love that "Air Tremolo" effect, and that natural Reverb, too. You guys completely left out the whole phantom horn section LOL! Baldwin Funster does mention the phantom horn section . . . "no amp, drums, horn section shown."

The only thing they really showcase in that video is the H9000; everything else, they just blow through. I still have no idea what that pedal is or does, and that's the product I'd be most likely to buy . . .

Gotta love that "Air Tremolo" effect, and that natural Reverb, too.

I hadn't seen that movie in decades, and recently caught it on some cable channel. Had the same thoughts about that Guitar; who customized it, and where did it go? Looking at it up close on a good-sized screen, it looks like a real Jag, not some mock-up, and the custom work is pretty cool. One thing I noticed; both of Birdie's sidekicks are slinging what look like stock Fender Basses? I guess there was no Rhythm Guitar in that band . . .

This is one of my personal favorite odd FX stunts! I've set up some very similar patches in my various GT-processors, and my old Digitech Studio 5000 (essentially the final version of the DHP-66), and even composed several pieces of Music using them. Any device that has Pitch Shift + Regeneration should do it for you. @Scott: you can set this up easily within the GT-10, using the Pre-Delay in the Pitch Shifter or Harmonist effects. If you create a two-channel patch, you can have FX-1 and FX-2 each set to Pitch Shift, and have the two stereo channels Pitch Shifting in different directions at the same time. @Caevan: You can probably set up something like this in your Digitech MFX? FWIW, just running a Pitch-Shifter pedal or effect into a Delay pedal (or vice-versa, running a Delay pedal into a Pitch-Shifter) will NOT give you this effect, and many Pitch-Shifter/Harmonist pedals won't do it, either. The trick is that each repeat of the Delay line is Pitch-Shifted once again, so you get a cascade of descending, or ascending, intervals, at a fixed time rate. You can even try to sync this to a Drum Machine, Sequencer, or anything that sends MIDI Clock. My general formula is to set the interval at a 4th or a 5th, either Up or Down, with 125-200ms of Delay Time, and around 90% Regeneration. Shorter Delay Times, and incremental amounts of Pitch-Shifting (Say down into Cents, as opposed to Semi-tones) will give you a cool "Barber-Pole Flanger" effect. That's a lot of function, for a small pedal footprint. I'm sorely tempted . . .