Jump to content


Please subscribe to MPN’s YouTube Channel!

sosho

Member
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    115

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by sosho

    Keyboard Organ Blindfold Test

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Very good player . I am really impressed by the nord and yamaha , will go and check those out..( the yamaha seems to have improved significantly with updates ,I did not follow for quite a while . I still have my electro 1 and while percussion is a bit artificial and C/V a bit too warbly it is still somehow good .

    B3X B5 Comparison

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    On 8/19/2023 at 9:37 AM, vanderSchoot said:

    Nice a bit of Dutch flavor !!!! The organ is the UAD Waterfall B3. In the past i had hardware Hammond XB-2 ,EMU B3, KeyB, Nord, Hx3 , Neo Ventilator and a real Leslie. Software Acoustic Samples B5 (now at version 3) and i had most of the familiar brands or tried them out like IK multi media, B4 , VB3 etc.

    I only still have and sometimes use the AS B5 and my most recent purchase this UAD waterfall B3 for Hammond parts in my own composed music. As backing parts only.

     

    I am no Hammond organist, but pianist in nature and i only used right hand Hammond parts in bands .

    But i absolutely love the instrument , but never play much left hand ( apart from a walking or comping bass) and can’t play pedal board.

     

    My experience is that most simulators sound pretty good when holding a full chord and changing speed from slow to fast. But most are less accurate when soloing on fast with licks and runs. That was my only minor disappointment with the Neo Ventilator which was otherwise stunningly accurate.

    This software UAD, which is not so rich as the AS B5 in the bass registers, is the first internal simulator, both hard and software which got it absolutely nailed on -fast- ! 
    But it’s hardly talked about and fairly expensive. I think it’s better than the much hailed IK multimedia B3-X with it’s also superb leslie. But when playing all parts combined the UAD , to my ears, sounds superior.

     

     i also bought Waterfall after briefly demoing it . I will have to test the B3-X again , I used it on a production and liked that one too after some tweaking .I probably should compare them again. Currently I am using a GSI /crumar hardware clone and Hx3/vent but I will soon try the waterfall live . Never used a laptop live before....

    • Like 1

    Yamaha CP88 and 73 - Deserve their own thread

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Haven"t found a shop with the 73 on the floor yet. Anyone on how the action compares to the 88?

     

    I've posted about this a few times. For piano technique, they don't really compare, the 88 feels much more piano-like. The 73, having the lighter action, is arguably better for rhodes, wurly, and clav.

     

    I think it's more appropriate to compare the CP73 to keyboards that similarly sacrifice action for portability, and in that category it's the best action I've found. I also far prefer it over Korg's RH3. However, I haven't played the newest Casio weighted action, which some people rave about, so can't compare it to that.

    How do you like your cp73 compared to your seven ? I know some of the sevens sounds from my gemini and I know the older yamaha cp5 . Thank you

    Good Active Studio Reference Monitors?

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Having read this http://ethanwiner.com/speaker_isolation.htm

    I am not really sure about speaker decouplers/ isolation . I made my own of rubber intended to be put under washing machines and softer foam . Maybe I get some professional and do my own test . After I worked on room acoustics.

    I went to a store last year to listen to the JBL LSR . The speakers I preferred were much more expensive but I also preferred the Fluid Audio FX8 which were not much more expensive at that time .I bought the fluid audio fx8

    HX3.5 Module Coming

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Interesting ... technically.

    But I wonder who needs Wersi and Böhm organs,- that´s the sound I hated when I was young already.

    The Addy Zehnpfennig, Klaus Wunderlich and who else era ...

     

    Vox, Farfisa and Gibson combo organs are welcome though and even I rarely use ´em today.

    I´d wish they add ringmod, wah, phaser and tube disc- and /or tape-delay like Binson Echorec and early Echoplex in addition to reverb and arrangeable in a user selectable sequential order,- at least delay & reverb pre/post leslie sim.

     

    I also wonder who will be the 1st coming w/ a convincing dual tube-leslie sim.

     

    A.C.

    yes, matter of taste , mine is similar to yours obviously

    HX3 MIDI expander module

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I cannot relate to all the above comments, since to my ears SNIP

    The HX3 top ocatve is still above the compitition where it has that extreme abilty to cut through any rock sound wall without ever becoming shrill.

    I have watched all available Mojo vids and althaugh it has a warm jazz sound it becomes thin when used in rock settings.

     

    Of course an online video isn't a good criteria, but it is something i can clearly hear in all Mojo examples...the top ocatve sounds a tad thin and shrill compared to the HX3.

     

    Besides that i think the keyclick is absolutely killer on the HX3....SNIP

    I can also relate to that , having tried both . Out of the box both need tweaking for my taste . Strong points of the hx for me are the top register and the attack , the mojo scores for my taste with a better C/V and -with average mono monitoring- better leslie simulation .On recordings i picked the mojo on 7 out of 10 tracks , the 3 I preferred the hx3 on were hard rock.I cannot play jazz organ(yet). just my 2 ct

    HX3 MIDI expander module

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Plugged my HX3 into my MiniVent tonight. Holy crap what a gnarly sound!

     

    Not sure what I have set up wrong, but I can't get a clean sound out of it. I backed off on the preamp gain trim and leslie amp level and it still shreds. I may be overloading the input of the MiniVent.

     

    I'd like to be able to reproduce this sound when needed, because it cuts like an Emerson/HiWatt powered leslie. But I need to get clean too!

     

    Just working through the thread ,this is an older posting ...

    Agree on most what you wrote under mojo comparison . It should work with the vent , there are clean audio examples . But should one use the pure organ output of the hx3 or including the amp sim without leslie sim ? How does it sound combining both amp sims ( backed off settings) ? Cheers

    Crumar Seven

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Go for it ! Yesterday I heard it in bandcontext with some nice meyersound monitors . The very same ones which made me ditch the clavia . And I did some recordings before . For me the first impression is very important , I think it is great . And people kept coming to me asking what keyboard I played . Last time this happened to me was when I bought the electro 1

    Crumar Seven

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Agree , I had my first gigs using it this weekend . Sounds great !! I brought an hx3 to compare but the gemini sounded better out of the box for my taste( no vent), . Rhodes and clav are better than any other keyboard I tried except the real deal ( which I own ) Even the sampled CP70 is usable when the sampled grand is not percussive enough .The JC ampsim reduces the artificial flavour a bit. I have it inside a DMC ( which is very good as well ). Should have bought the external to use with different keyboards .

    Crumar Seven

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    [

    The Rhodes sounds the same, but the phaser sounds quite different. I typically will use my small stone pedal to get the sound I like - but Guido's vid is spot on. If that is from the same Phaser in the Gemini - I'd love to see his settings!

     

    Other than that, the form factor is what excites me most. I do not prefer playing Rhodes/EP from the organ action keybed.

     

    Oh - and it looks bad-ass on stage (the Seven)

    I wanted to write just the same the day before . I would like to have the settings as well if it is unchanged ( the phaser ) I did some quick comparisons to my Yamaha CP5 , I did prefer the phaser and some other effects on the yamaha , maybe it is just easier to modify those for me than fiddeling about with a touch screen , the presets do sound better for me .But the basic sound is better on the Crumar/ GSI . Especially when the GSI is played from the YAMAHA keyboard. BTW the yamaha is too heavy and bulky for me since I moved houses, the seven would be just managable .Cannot afford it now , I try to find an affordable 76 keys fatar to hook up to the DMC/Gemini

    BTW The week before I recorded keyboards for a CD at home only using the gemini . While playing I had the feeling of "same same , but different ", just a bit better than the nord 2 I used for 10 years or more . But when I listened to the tracks later it sounded much , much better . No additional hardware.

    Crumar Seven

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

     

    Maybe not: if I had used a DX7-IID (which I also own), it had responded exactly like the Seven, because they solved this velocity issue with the Mark II of DX7... not to mention that one has a very soft (and wear out) synth action keybed, the other has a hammer-action keybed.

     

    And it's a very old debate between DX7-I and DX7-II, some people still think that the DX7-I sounds warmer just because the Mark I of everything has to sound warmer :D (think at Minimoogs, Prophets, and so on). Also, if a digital emulation of something is compared to the real thing, it's of mathematical certainty that the real thing sounds warmer, because our brain tells us so.

     

    Are you sure the DX7 II has the full velocity range using it' s own keyboard ? I used a DX7 IID as MIDI controller for quite some time , I always added 10 steps at least in cubase to get fortissimo out of expanders. And it produced strange overly sharp sounds when played from a korg stage piano .

     

    Crumar Seven

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    And the legs are 3,5 kg , can be carried seperately. I wonder what kind of wood the case is made of . I think my rhodes case and legs are much heavier . I hope the action feels similar to the dexibell 73 key board
×
×
  • Create New...