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    Cover Band Players: How Do You Learn "New" Songs?

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I don't think anyone on this thread has brought up my favorite scenario: coming up with keyboard parts for a cover song that doesn't have keyboards on it.

     

    I play in a dance/party band and we do a "rock" medley of Barracuda/Crazy Train/Shook Me All Night Long and on each track I use a synth stab patch(Syn Brass The Sailor) on my Kronos X during the chorus.

    Learning songs on stage

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I have subbed in a quite a bands over the years, and I have the same approach as a lot of you. I was a member of the house band in several open jams. The bass player(formerly of the band Outkaster had previously mentioned.. The Legendary Dukes) had a vast repertoire of songs and often he would ask on stage if I could play them. I've never played a lot of the songs, but he knew I can pick things up fairly quick.

     

    A lot of it is listening.. paying attention.. sitting out on sections you are unfamiliar with.

     

     

    Korg Wavestate

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I don't immediately see the Wav State in a cover band. Or a funk/soul band.

     

    But if it appears in commercial pop songs, that would suggest all the production studios are getting it.

     

    from there, it takes off.

     

    I looked at the Wav state . No way it could fully perform in Kronos. Kronos could handle

    a certain % of Wav state processing. It would be a good experiment how far

    one could push Waveseq combis in Kronos until getting clicks and pops.

     

     

    I wouldn't be looking to replicate Wavestate functionality in a Kronos. It's good for what it does, just a lot of functionality that I don't have any use for.

     

    FWIW, I bought a Wavestation EX in '94 and have gigged with it for 10 years. The organ in it sounded pretty darn good.

     

    New KORG SV2??

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Tucktronix, does this mean you used it for a jazz combo context? My point is that context is everything. Different sounds may cut through differently based on that. It's a big reason why we have choices of brands vs. everyone converging on the same choice. After all, it is partly about taste and feel, but also about what people end up finding works in their specific context.

     

    I'm not arguing in favour or against the SV series per se; I simply think it's helpful if people include their usage context as that often is the most important point of all.

     

    No argument here..

     

    It's a stage piano, right? It shouldn't matter which context you use it in. I play in blues bands where the drums, guitars and vocals are louder. If this instrument was only for a jazz setting, than it should be advertised as such. Now if I was playing in a metal band, then, yeah..

    In case you were wondering, I do search for and use a piano suited for rock/blues.

    New KORG SV2??

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Context is everything (and many aren't mentioning it). I'm not a huge fan of the SV-1 (or I would have bought one), but its acoustic piano cuts through better than any I've heard on a digital board, in the context of jazz combos in thew SF Bay Area. Its Rhodes also seems to be the most dynamic and warm, in that context. I wouldn't use it in a studio vs. better choices, for sure.

     

    Glad it worked for you. Maybe there was some sort of glitch, but I could barely hear that piano, even with the volume all the way up. My Casio PX5S cuts through WAY better

    New KORG SV2??

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Bought an SV-1 88 and sold it the following year. The action was too stiff for me and the acoustic piano didn't cut through at all. Plus, the shape and contour wasn't ideal for a 2-tier setup with the piano at the bottom

    Weight of keyboard

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Did it for years with my S80 which was 52 lbs., I'm not an especially strong guy but it was always doable; but for the last few years I have been much happier since replacing it with the 33-lb. MOXF8, just so much quicker and easier to move around even without wheels (and I can get away with using a soft case), if it's a compromise it's worth it to me, just makes gigging life easier. Anyway these days there are many under-50-lb. options for a weighted-88, you should look into at least some of them; if you find one where you don't feel the action is a compromise you might be happier.

     

    Gigged with an S80 for 10 years in a SKB case(sold it in 2010) and acquired a Korg CX3 a year before I sold the S80. The 37-lb CX3 was packed in a 35-lb flight case. For a year, I had been schlepping around those 2 beasts as they were my primary blues setup. Now, my blues rig consists of a Nord Electro 5D and Casio PX5S, and my back couldn't be any more happier.

     

    I forgot how much better the real deal sounds

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I remember when the KB-2 came out, Keyboard had a Hammond shootout, where they compared the current Hammond clones to the real thing. They did the rating on a drawbar scale, with 8 bring the highest.

     

    The KB-2 had some of the best numbers of all the clones, including authenticity, but the one that convinced me to get one was the Balls category. The test bed Hammond received a 7, where the XB-2 received an 8.

     

    If it had not been for the Hammond EXP-100 pedal shorting out and taking out the XB-2 with it, I would still be using it.

     

     

     

    I used to gig with an XB2 connected to a modded Leslie 25(amped via Fender Bassman) for several years and thought it was the closest thing out there

    Best Virtual B3 ??

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I"ll just throw this in there... if the OP isn"t an organ player, doesn"t notice the differences, is using a weighted hammer action, just needs a bit of organ to replicate some James Brown type stuff, and has a limited supply of money, what"s wrong with the 'tone wheels' on-board the RD2000 in the first place? Thousands (well, hundreds) think Roland organ sounds are good enough.

     

    All in context and YMMV, but in this case I"d suggest BbAltered save his money.

     

     

    This. I'll also second/third the recommendation for MainStage/Logic's stock B3 plugin.

     

    I fourth the recommendation, and have used it extensively in my recordings

    Dig My Rig--Let's see your setup!

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    The clavinet has seen better days. :cool:

     

    What sounds do you use the Novation for? It seems out of place with all the classic keys.

     

    Keyboard fashion police, if the gear sounds good.. let it be.

     

    Not keyboard police, genuinely curious. You ask a question and people think you are criticizing :cop::facepalm:

     

    I know it sounds good - I own one. It is a heck of a VA at an excellent price point. It is just focused on very different sounds, and curious how it is used to complement the classic gear.

     

    It's all fine and dandy.. except that it really wasn't a question, it was more a statement. That's what I responded to. You made a comment about the Clavinet and that the Novation seems "out of place" with the rest of the gear.

     

    In the end, they're just tools.. and with the Ultranova being the beast that it is, it certainly would NOT be out of place in his setup :)

     

     

    Dig My Rig--Let's see your setup!

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    The clavinet has seen better days. :cool:

     

    What sounds do you use the Novation for? It seems out of place with all the classic keys.

     

    Keyboard fashion police, if the gear sounds good.. let it be.

     

    Killer rig.. I have the Ultranova in my setup. It's a lil' beast!

     

    FWIW, I dig the road torn look of the Clavinet

     

    Alesis Q Cards

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Bought a QS8.1 in 1998 and gigged with it for a couple of years. I had some extra money coming in and chose to get the QS8.1 over the more expensive Triton Pro 88. The "award winning" ac pianos were pretty bad, thin like tissue paper. And after a year of use, I started getting a "metallic" like sound with each note I press in the 1st octave. I took it to the local music store/repair shop and they couldn't get rid of it, even after reloading the OS. Eventually, I sold it to get a Yamaha S80.
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