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I had the Live at the Fillmore album played that a lot. Later I got the CD version and turns out it wasn't even the same songs as the album. It was terrible. They should have just remastered the original recording. It is far superior to the CD version.

I also have a Ampeg VT 22 that has the capability to sound like a Dual Showman as well as a bunch of other amps. That's the same as the V4 stack the Stones used live in the 70's. Hum that sorta makes sense. It's the combo version with 2 12's. 120 watts has blown the speakers 3 times. I really should replace them with something better but I don't play it that loud anymore.

Well when I looked it up several sources said he used a 1959 Les Paul custom and a Dual Showman amp. The guitar was supposed to be the same one he used on the Ed Sullivan show. Of course I don't know for sure. Don't have a Dual Showman amp but I do have a Deluxe Reverb and a LP Custom. Of course those are two different sorts of things.

Trying to figure out what amp used on satisfaction. I am pretty sure he used a LP custom for guitar. Seems like he may have used some kind of tweed deluxe modified to class a.

Interesting looks like Gibson relaunched the Maestro effects recently. That one appears to be analog. Probably sounds a lot like the original.

Yeah the satisfaction fuzz. I read the description on the EVH website. They sure made it sound like it was meant to cop the satisfaction sound which mine can do pretty faithfully. Not that I have tried to play it recently. I will have to give it a go when I have the time. It's not the same circuit as the one used on the original song though the intent was to recreate that sound. Robert Moog was probably up to the task.

That probably sounds a lot like the Maestro pedal. I should get one and see how close it sounds. Don't really need any more stuff though.

Other effects available at the time possibly. 1948 DeArmond Trem-Trol 1962 Maestro Fuzz Tone 1967 Vox Cry Baby Octave pedal Vibra Chorus 1968 Uni-Vibe 1969 Uni-Fuzz After that many different effects became available. Now there are so many there is no way to know about them all.

At the time I bought that pedal it was pretty much the only effect they had in the shop. There really was not that many other effects available. I think most of the other effects available were hard to get unless you were a professional. Would have to check the timeline to be sure.

I see a fair amount of people here like effects. I was looking at the Boss reissue thread and thought I would look up the first effect I bought. A Gibson Maestro Fuzz-Tone FZ-1B. They have a bunch on Reverb priced form 800 to 1200 dollars😶 I still have the pedal. The one I have was apparently designed by Robert Moog. Who knew.

Yeah at $40 a pop that's at least $800 to retube the preamp sections of my amps at least the ones I care about😶 No telling what they would charge for power tubes if they even plan to produce them🤔

Well if they are going to do this they need a $20 or less per tube price range. The other tubes they make are expensive. They may only make the one high fi tube. Have not looked in a while.

I grew up with those guys. Literally lived in Manhattan, Kansas from 68 to 73. I saw every version of them live dozens of times. Kerry's cousin went to school with me. I was surprised when I saw a Kansas album in the record store when I was in college. Thought someone else had stolen their name. Kerry showed me a few things on guitar. Got to sneak backstage a lot. Was even more surprised how big they got.

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Ha ha I am speechless 🤣

Al Coda I really hope that is supposed to be a joke?

Ha ha I get all that and yes a guitar can only do all those things with effects. Not sure if that counts. Of course if we use a guitar synthesizer. Well my Gibson les Paul can only make guitar sounds.

Al Coda I guess I said it wrong. What I would like to know is what the Mini Moog is capable of? Shamanzarek indicated that it doesn't have enough keys or oscillators to play the "Lucky Man" solo. That was what I meant for $4000 what can it do. Since I play guitar I can get one Gibson for $4000 or 10 Epiphone's the Epiphone's can do everything the Gibson can with perhaps a slight reduction in sound quality (which can be very subjective) . Just would like to here the value use case for one of these. I get that it is a quality reproduction of a rare vintage instrument, but what other use case is there for it? I can see that it might just make someone happy just to own it, but is there more to it that that?

I am not a keyboard player, but exactly what sounds does this thing produce? I looked at it out and it did not seem to have $4000 worth of controls on it. If I said that right.

Ah tangerine dream is electronica. How do you tell the difference?

Tangerine Dream maybe?

Well that's how I look at it. It has to push the boundaries if that is even possible. But if it's not engaging and musical it's just noise.

So in this context progressive rock Is being used as a label for a specific type of music that was created in the past and not as a way to describe new music that sounds nothing like any of the music that was new and different at a certain point in the past?

I haven't bought strings in quite some time.🤣 Never had any go bad that were unopened though. I do live in a very dry climate. I must have fifty packs in several different gauges. My epi dot does not like any gauge but 10s. Same with my Martin acoustic. Everyone else gets 9s. I would use lighter if I could but unlike some of you I can break any of them I guess I don't have a light touch some of the time 🤨

I have seven tube amps, so this kind of sucks. None of them need tubes at this time. I do have some spares so hopefully this will be resolved before I need to refund any of them.