Part of the problem may be that not all black musicians like or play classical music. Not all white musicians do, either, of course, LOL..... Oddly enough, there was a black lady who played viola beautifully at my sister's wedding a year or so ago. She told me with great pride that she was the first African American viola section leader in that orchestra. Well deserved pride. She's a very fine musician! ---------------------------- Back to the topic - I've never played in bars, except to sit in on rare occasions, so I've never had to deal with drunks or ladies trying to come on to the band. Mostly I've been a church mouse all my life, now trying to let my inner RAT come out. Most of the bizarre comments have been from junior pastors who couldn't understand why we wanted to know what songs we were going to play BEFORE the service, so we could run through them quickly and at least agree on a key and tempo, or remember them at all, if we only practiced it once 6 months ago. Or why we didn't want to run upstairs, then downstairs again, then upstairs again with our equipment, while they decided where we were going to play that morning......... There is no more arrogant creature on earth than a junior pastor, I think.....