well, what i meant to day and didnt was that the term conscientious used to be known only in the term "conscientious objecter", in the days of the draft, which dates me, my number was high in 1970. i am glad you are putting this info out, it is a great resource. it seems the tube world, and also the UPS, USPS, and fedex "gods" of this realm are taking their due of our dollar, but i dont fault the tube world really, with modeling amps and things coming in, tubes are really taking a beating. my amp tech, the one i will take my super to, does not use tubes that are over 40 bucks a pair, he is a super "rebuilder" from tulsa named rick potter, and quite good and really, i am glad that new tubes are available. it would be a shame to have amps with no tube tone. one fellow came into the music store i visit and was talking about how he was looking for a solid state amp because his peavy classic 30 fell off the back of the seat of his car and it messed up a tube. his idea of amps is, if it has the least bit of problem it is no good. i have a 100 watt harry joyce head with 4 el34s and 4 ei 12ax7s, but i cant find a rectifier tube on it, it must have a solid state in there. i am through amp searching, but thought it would be a good idea to find a way to lower the head room on this super, use it in conjunction with the joyce, which is mammoth clean and also overdriven. it is a beast like no other i have ever played, harry joyce is dead now, but i am glad i got one of them. it is great for huge stage clean, but then again, so is evans, hah, but tubes have the warmth. well, i have rambled, and again, this is a great resource...i meant to say that it is very cool that you are conscientious, as many are not, it is a gift. sorry for the multiple posts...