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#464803 05/09/02 06:44 AM
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Believe the hype...

After much skepticism, I ordered and finally received a pair ADAM S2a's for nearfield use.

The monitors are totally unflattering to my mixes, but once things sound good on the ADAMs, they sound unfrickinbelievable everywhere else. They really made me work hard, but there's no second-guessing them like all the other speakers I've used over the years.

This probably belongs in the ADAM-worship thread, but it's too far buried. No, I don't work for McCave, although I may now name a beloved household pet after David Bryce.

Easily my best purchase this year. I'll be keeping these for awhile.


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What I wanna hear are some P-11 and P-22 reports, or even the S1As, for the rest of us with less mulah to spend.


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i re-named my first born son ADAM, now i must have a girl to name EVE ;\)


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I love my P11's! Picked them up from Europe and saved mucho dinero. Maybe one day i'll be able to afford those S3a's that AJ has, but for now, the P11's will do fine.

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i want some S4-C's now.... but not for my studio.


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I would like to hear their unpowered versions. While the S3-A's sound amazing, I don't necessarily like the fact that the amps in them pass over everything without a hitch.

I want to hear my monitors crap out if there is too much low bass in them. That way I know to roll-off low end.

I don't think that McCave is importing unpowered versions. I'd live to hear a pair of S-3's on a Bryston 4B.

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Today my S2As arrived.I haven't had a chance to mix on them yet.The sound is fantastic and detailed.My choice was narrowed down to Mackie HR824,Genelic 1030A and ADAM p11A.So i went to the distributer here in the uk for the ADAMS and listened to the p11s.p22s,S1As and S2As.First up were the p22s,great sounding,but something i didn't like about the bass end.Next up S2As,blew me away!!!Next S1As,same sound as S2As,but not reaching as low,still fantastic tho.Next p11As,great sounding,but not so keen on the bass end,altho i prefer these to the p22s.
I listened to some Alt dance/ebm cds,some Alt rock and some of my mixes through all the above monitors(as i have done with the mackies and genelics).The ADAMs sounded great with every cd, rock and dance,but some of my mixes sounded a bit off,which was more noticable through the S2As than the others.
I went looking to buy the p11s,but walked away thinking i would only be truly happy with the S2As.Fortunately for me in the uk i got a great deal on the S2As,so that is what i bought.I went over budget but couldn't not have them.
My order of preference was S2A,then p11,S1A,then p22,but this is also based on cost as well.
As you may know all the ADAMs have the same tweeters,but the S series have superior sounding cones to the p series.
In the uk the p11s gone be bought for less than the mackies and Genelic 1030s,but are all(imho)of similar quality.The S2As blow them all away

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I'm glad somebody else started this thread...Now I can add my 2 cents worth.

1. Get your ADAM S3-A's today. If you acn't afford 'em, fuck it, one nut will provide all the semen/sperm you need to procreate. If you're female, and can't afford the S3-A's, sell your guy's nut!

Simple as that.

Ok, a more balanced and technical review to follow \:\)

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Naahhhh. I think I'll wait until Berringer(k) comes out with their version.

(Just kidding! Don't shoot me!)

\:D ;\)


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Originally posted by NYC Drew:
1. Get your ADAM S3-A's today. If you acn't afford 'em, fuck it, one nut will provide all the semen/sperm you need to procreate. If you're female, and can't afford the S3-A's, sell your guy's nut!
I agree Drew and I'd love to... but I don't have a guy. \:\(

Anybody wanna be my guy? You can share my ADAM's if I can sell your nut. \:D

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Well Lee,

Over the years ther were a LOT of things I would have "given my left nut" for...

...but so thatsyou can have a pair of ADAMs...ahhhh...shit, I went with the Mackie 824s instead, and saved my nut(s) for a nice brand new Neve board!!!

Hey Rupert...wanna' nut?


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Sorry Lee, my bag is empty. Virulent weasels sporting the sinister acronym "MOA" tattooed across their furry little rumps have already appropriated both of mine.

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ROFL!!

Hey waterboy, I thought you were gonna like, change your name or something.

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S2-A's kicking my ass every day, I love it. If it isn't right, they give you the finger and when it's right they smile. Plus no ear fatigue.

It was over my budget so I paid for one box and my wife paid for the other. Didn't have to sell a nut but I did have to bust one \:D

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Lee Flier wrote:

"Hey waterboy, I thought you were gonna like, change your name or something."

My dearest High Priestess,

Bless your little heart for remembering that drivel. The way that thread made its pitiful descent into the weeds like a stricken wombat I thought it best to just let it lie.

Besides, my partners (who are far more AR than yours truly) thought it was a waste of bandwidth to host my Avatar.

So waterboy it shall remain for the time being.

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S2-A's kicking my ass every day, I love it. If it isn't right, they give you the finger and when it's right they smile.
My thoughts exactly. I've never had a monitor flip me off and piss on my mixes quite like these do. Stuff like the Genelecs make even aural turds sound kinda pretty, which doesn't help much translating in the real world. I don't want my monitors to pay compliments to me, I want the truth. And that's what the ADAMs are delivering.


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If:

Your mixes don't translate quicker and easier with ADAM S2-A's or S3-A's...

Your ears aren't much less fried at the end of a long day...

The enjoyment factor of mixing doesn't jump back to at least as high as when you first discovered the fun of recording...

You can't hear when it sux or when it's great while using these speakers...

...then you're either deaf or dead. Hang it up.

And BTW, I didn't have to sell a nut to get mine - just a Telefunken ELA M 251 E. No regrets either!

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DREW: Glad to see you're out of the closet now! \:D

Lee: Yes, I am planning on calling you, but misplaced the number. Please drop me a line.

Miroslav, I can think of a lot worse causes to give your left nut for than to help out Lee! ;\)

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Been listening to my shiny new S2-A's all day. Yeah, I want the 3's, but I'll keep a nut for now.

Brought mine to my local music store where buddies of mine work, set em up next to the Mackies and Genelecs, and listened to the jaws hit the floor. Fun in an unfair sort of way. If I ever go 5.1, I'm planning on adding another S2 in the center and S1 or maybe P11's for rears.

I'd love to hear these next to some Meyers or Westlakes. The 1296 is coming next week too, and I'm gonna be in DP/Logic heaven.


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Owing to my much-lamented nutless condition, I'm seriously considering the Blue Sky 2.1's as a starting point for building a 5.1 system.

Any Adam-lovers here who have directly A/B'd the S2A's against the Blue Sky's?

Are we talking Lennon/Mcartney or Schwarzenneger/DeVito?

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I thought the blue sky's were very good at the NYC AES...

It's hard to mix on my ADAM S4A-C's with no nuts, arms or legs!

I just use my nose and..... keep some Brittany posters up.



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OK... so it's 4:00 AM, I got home from the bar two hours ago, I have to give midterm to a philosophy class of 100 in five hours, and guess what I've been doing.... listening to all my favorite CD's through my ADAM's.

This is just wrong. Bryce must in fact be an evil minion of an alien conspiracy to take over the planet, like in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Only instead of going to sleep, we're all so blissed out lon these things that we don't notice the tendrils of the symbiotic brain parasites. Fine with me, I'd gladly be an instrument of the will of some sentient Neptunian plant in exchage for perfect mixes.

Lee... make it the S5's, and you're on.


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A "gear pimp"/engineer friend of mine sent me his personal pair of S-3A's to "check out for a couple of weeks". Now he says he's got this big mix down gig next week and wants me to send them back...Ha! My 1030's are already boxed up and in storage.
In all seriousness, these monitors don't lie. The level of detail is amazing. and most important to me, my sonically marginal control room acoustics don't seem to matter near as much with them. Too bad the lead time on the S-3A's is 3 weeks!
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Boy this thread multiplied fast.
Thing is, I'm missing the superlowend right now on my NHTPro A20s. As great as the ADAM S2As are, what about the sub frequencies you need to hear/feel for a truly honest mix?
Wouldn't a P11 and subP be better than an S2a?
In that sense the bluesky sounds like great value.


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...and a thread diverged in the forest. I see half of us seem to be skipping blissfully through the Garden while the rest of us have nestled somewhere, er, south of Eden.

SteveFortner I think you may be on to something there. This TRUTH mantra is starting to make me a little queasy (or maybe I'm just nutless and ashamed).

Thank you Jules for that perfect priaptic punctuation. Priceless!

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As great as the ADAM S2As are, what about the sub frequencies you need to hear/feel for a truly honest mix?
Not a problem. I couldn't BELIEVE how much bass those babies put out. EVERY other nearfield I've tried in here has has major bass defienciency issues; not the S2A's. I dunno how they do it with those little 7 inch woofers, but you can hear everything.

Otherwise I totally concur with everyone else's comments: they are completely honest with you without causing ear fatigue, and they don't seem to care if your room acoustically sucks. I think the latter point was the first thing I noticed and the thing that impressed me the most, because a) I didn't think that was possible, and b) you could save yourself a shitload of time and $$$ on acoustical treatment for your control room, which suddenly makes the price of these puppies seem not so high. PLUS, you can carry them to an unfamiliar room and not have to waste time acclimating your ears to the room.

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Lee... make it the S5's, and you're on.
WHOA! Are you saying your nuts are big enough that one will fetch a pair of S5's?

BRING 'EM ON!! \:D

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Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe:
Miroslav, I can think of a lot worse causes to give your left nut for than to help out Lee! ;\)
I'd consider it if she was closer so that we could share the ADAMs...but there's just too many miles between us...!


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[QB]Owing to my much-lamented nutless condition, I'm seriously considering the Blue Sky 2.1's as a starting point for building a 5.1 system.QB]
waterboy...(or is it...girl?)

I too have looked/considered the Blue Sky as a 5.1 option.
But even though I still have my nuts...I don't have the $$$ for 5.1 right now...for any system!!!

I wanna' know who on these forums first goes for a full-blown ADAM 5.1 system...
OUCH!!!...that's gonna' part you from your nuts AND ca$h... \:D


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Hey miroslav,

Have you actually auditioned the Blue Sky's?

Thanks,

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Hey miroslav,

Have you actually auditioned the Blue Sky's?

Thanks,

waterbag
Pascal Sijen, of Blue Sky, offerd to let me demo a system a couple of months ago. But, I had just purchased my Mackie 824s and even though I was thinking about 5.1 for the future, I was not going to buy now.

So I took a "rain-check" on his offer...didn't think it would be fair to demo if I was not really going to buy for awhile...and you never know what new stuff they might have down the road, so I'll save my rain check for when I'm ready.

He did send me all of the specs, pics and a .PDF with the manual. Looks good, and I've heard good things about them too.

Shit..I seem to reacall that one of the trade mags just had a review...this month.
Was it Audio Media, EQ, ahhh...I don't remember, but I think I have it at home.

The review was positive overall...however, it pointed out that you really needed a good sized room to take full advantage of the Blue Sky sub...though the reviewer mentioned that there is a new-smaller system coming soon...???


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