zeronyne Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I"m used to the more 'traditional' effect order of the rock and roll 70s and beyond: overdrive/fuzz/distortion -> modulation -> time-based effects and ambience. And I know volume and eq pedals can sit in various places. But for bass, what is the recommended order of octave, filter, and overdrive/distortion? I"ve always thought it was octave to overdrive to filter, but is anyone running the beginning of the chain differently? Quote "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Octave first, no two ways about it What sort of filter? It will provide different tones before the overdrive/distortion than it does after it. Try them both and see which way you prefer, that one is not set in stone. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 KuruPrionz is spot on but I'd like to add that if the effects are not cranked, you may have better results moving them around. Your don't seem to be juggling many pedals so just try different placement. You never know, you may find a type of weird you never new you wanted in quick amount of time. What do you have to loose? Harming your equipment is the only "wrong". Now, are you considering the existential ramifications of what pedals go into the instrument input and what goes in the effects loop? 1 Quote If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 I already use the 5 cable method. Lol Quote "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danzilla Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I was just watching a video about pedal order earlier today. I think he spends too much time talking about buffers, but he gives some good ideas. [video:youtube] I usually put my wah after the overdrive; but I might switch it around, if I ever get enough energy to do it... 1 Quote "Am I enough of a freak to be worth paying to see?"- Separated Out (Marillion) NEW band Old band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Psmith Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I"m used to the more 'traditional' effect order of the rock and roll 70s and beyond: overdrive/fuzz/distortion -> modulation -> time-based effects and ambience. And I know volume and eq pedals can sit in various places. But for bass, what is the recommended order of octave, filter, and overdrive/distortion? I"ve always thought it was octave to overdrive to filter, but is anyone running the beginning of the chain differently? It's a "chicken-&-egg" situation, really. Octave into Filter can give you some great Synth-like tones, or deep Funk grooves. Ring Mod into Filter can get pretty crazy, too. As I understand it, most OD/Distortion pedals, whether for Guitar or Bass, rely on some degree of signal clipping, which alters the signal dynamics. In "The Boss Book", which as you might expect is all about Boss pedals, there's a series of graphs showing the waveforms generated by all of the various Boss OD/Dist/Fuzz pedals at the time of publication, and all of them rely on some form of signal clipping, in some cases applied to specific frequency bands. Envelope Filters are driven by signal dynamics, and generally want to be as close to your input source as possible. Will using a Distortion pedal before your Filter significantly alter the response of your Filter pedal? It depends; try switching the order, and turning them on and off to find which combination gives you the sound that you want. That's pretty much the "right" order, the one that works for you. I tend to put anything that I might treat as an Instrument voice (Octaver, Pitch-Shifter, Ring Mod, Bit Crusher, Synth Pedal) at or near the front of my signal chain, followed by Filter effects, then the Big 3, Distortion - Modulation - Delay/Reverb. I also have my OD/Distortion effects arranged as a Gain Stack: Transparent OD -> Mid-Gain OD -> High-Gain Distortion -> Fuzz. IDK if any of that helps, it's just one pedal geek's approach. 1 Quote "Monsters are real, and Ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." Stephen King http://www.novparolo.com https://thewinstonpsmithproject.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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