TommyS Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 At a rehearsal with a singer/ guitarist who demanded that the groove(s) be ' mature',,,, any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 In the pocket, no filler. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I would ask him to explain what he meant, as I've never heard the term used to describe a groove ... or in any other musical way. I prefer mature women ... but groove? I dunno what that is. Older? Experienced? What might an immature groove sound like? Unstable? Maybe that's it. A mature groove is a stable one. Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I think Eric's on it. I think BL means "just settle TF down." Play with the kick or snare and think in footballs. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgoo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Charlie Watts = mature. Keith Moon = immature (not saying immaturity doesn't have its place...) Quote Custom Music, Audio Post Production, Location Audio www.gmma.biz https://www.facebook.com/gmmamusic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 At a rehearsal with a singer/ guitarist who demanded that the groove(s) be ' mature',,,, any thoughts? Serve the song. Play with thought and intention. The signature licks matter, the rest needs to be open and leave space for the singer/song. No clutter, no indulgence, save your fancy licks for the end of the solo. Basic, simple stuff. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I agree ask him what the hell he means or better yet demonstrate it. Mature like old Fusion players now playing Smooth Jazz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I perceive, based solely on the fact that he posted the question here, that OP may sense asking directly would harm his standing in the eyes of the BL. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I perceive, based solely on the fact that he posted the question here, that OP may sense asking directly would harm his standing in the eyes of the BL.And besides, it's so much more fun to discuss it here on KC. I think I will now describe myself as a mature groove. Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 No more using fart samples in the middle of songs by the sound of it Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Decades ago on an airplane, the country music channel included a lead singer instructing the band to "get down" during an interlude between verses. After the improvisation grew chaotically busy, the fellow patiently said "Now get back up," and the solo settled into a simple modal melody. I laughed pretty deeply, annoying some of my fellow travelers. I think the guitarist was requesting that the OP stay, um, "up." Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 "Lay down some of that deep, neo-natal groove. By the end of the tune I want to be crying and shitting myself." Quote 9 Moog things, 3 Roland things, 2 Hammond things and a computer with stuff on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Decades ago on an airplane, the country music channel included a lead singer instructing the band to "get down" during an interlude between verses. After the improvisation grew chaotically busy, the fellow patiently said "Now get back up," and the solo settled into a simple modal melody. I laughed pretty deeply, annoying some of my fellow travelers. I think the guitarist was requesting that the OP stay, um, "up." [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis D Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Probably, play less notes and leave him more space to sing. This is how i would "translate" Quote Be grateful for what you've got - a Nord, a laptop and two hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadroj Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 "Lay down some of that deep, neo-natal groove. By the end of the tune I want to be crying and shitting myself." I can give you crying or shitting yourself, but not both. Quote Hammond SKX Mainstage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyRude Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 like playing Smooth Jazz? No that can't be it. Younger is smooth. Mature is older and wrinklier Quote Some music I've recorded and played over the years with a few different bands Tommy Rude Soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Except for our brains, where the opposite happens. At this point you could use mine as a bowling alley. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I'm very badly remembering a phrase that goes something like "talking about music is like miming about colors." Any group of musicians will eventually come up with its own lexicon of words and meanings, the same way any language is developed, by learning through trial and experience that "when he says this, he means that." What I love about music as compared to, say, tennis, is that you can keep getting better (and groovier) at it right up to the time your brain stops functioning. Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I'm very badly remembering a phrase that goes something like "talking about music is like miming about colors." Any group of musicians will eventually come up with its own lexicon of words and meanings, the same way any language is developed, by learning through trial and experience that "when he says this, he means that." What I love about music as compared to, say, tennis, is that you can keep getting better (and groovier) at it right up to the time your brain stops functioning. I think it was "Talking about music is like dancing about architecture." And, it's true. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'... Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'...So of course you played adult eighth note patterns Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groove On Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'...So of course you played adult eighth note patterns Nowadays middle age 8th note patterns are more my thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 They clearly meant 'more cowbell" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'...So of course you played adult eighth note patterns Nowadays middle age 8th note patterns are more my thing.Those are mature 8th note patterns Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'...So of course you played adult eighth note patterns Nowadays middle age 8th note patterns are more my thing.Those are mature 8th note patterns :roll: And I especially don't want to hear, 'senior eighth note patterns'. Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 My association with such a request would be crusaders album musical personae versus dumb full time soloing wanky attention seekers. Quite the directive. TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I was once told, while improvising a keyboard part for a recording, to avoid 'juvenile eighth note patterns'...So of course you played adult eighth note patterns Nowadays middle age 8th note patterns are more my thing.Those are mature 8th note patterns Time does not lead to maturity. It's not how long you live, it is how you live. Replace rote wanking with love making. Think Jerry Rice style practice and make every moment the Superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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