dalpozlead Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Have you ever wanted to use an external box to spice a few patches from a synth but keep others without the changes? How to do this from a 'single' stereo output (example: Roland FA)? I"m thinking about building a control box to enable the FX signal to be activated and disabled from a footswitchâ¦. DIY experts around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Unless your controller has an effects loop then all external effects added would be post output. some mixers offer an effects loop with a latching switch so that you can turn the effects on/off by toggling the switch. Others offer an effects return slider to turn the effects on and off. You may not want to invest in a mixer that has this functionality but for me if I needed to do what you are looking to do I would look for a mixer who already has this functionality incorporated. One less thing to hook up/carry/disassemble. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Some stompbox effects will have an on/switch. Some rack/desktop effects will have a wet/dry mix you can control with midi cc. If none of those are what you have, our guitar brethren have signal switchers ranging from simple to very complex in their pedalboard world. Check out the rig doctor /vertex on youtube for a taste of that world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 tks for the tips, I'm seeking online and the signal switcher seems to be the solution... I'll just have to detail how to setup to deal with the stereo signal for pads and mono going through the external FX for the leads.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The phositicated way of the keyboard master would be to control all via midi with an fx pedal like the Eventide H9 or a comparable rack fx unit. Unless you have your heart set on a particular guitar pedal. Even then there are loop switchers like the decibel 11 switch doctor. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Dalpoz, Can't you use the subout on the FA for this purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 Dalpoz, Can't you use the subout on the FA for this purpose? nice thinking! considering the subout delivers a mono signal as L/MONO would really help! (more if I could rout directly to the subout, but I sense I can't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Eventide H9 or if you use a mixer and AUXs some Strymons. Any external FX will really add to your sound, especially if you can use MIDI PrgmChng and CC#"s per keyboard preset. I cured my lust with the Strymon TriFecta. MOBIUS, TimeLine and Big Sky. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Jeez, I went down this road some time back, and it didn't end well. Cost and complexity killed the idea. I had a full stereo signal chain: Vent II, shimmery chorus/phase, lush reverb. It sounded GREAT, I just struggled actually doing a gig with it. Needless to say, lots of cables, power supplies, etc. that require your undivided attention when setting up. Bunch of pedals, I had to hit the right one(s) at the right time. Really fussy stuff that I could have eventually figured out, but I asked myself -- why am I doing this? Once I started using inboard effects, all of that disappeared. They're associated with the program itself, not the rig. No, it's not the ultimate killer effect chain I had put together, but it was 95% of it. And we'll save that last 5% for the recording studio. Quote Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 CP, I've known a lot of guitarists who took a long time to play a single note, too. Well said. Ha ha. The helix/fractal audio/kemper units weaned several of them away from the massive pedalboards though. At least for gigs. Dalpozlead, it might help if you described the musical purpose you are trying to achieve. For example, if you are playing in an atmospheric group the above mentioned eventides and strymons will give smoother reverbs and delays than a workstation would. Though you can do quite a lot with on-board delays these days. If you are looking for an assertive voice in a rock/band a small desktop analog can sometimes be more "present" and devices like the Roland SE-02 and Dreadbox Typhon/Nymphes com with enough basic effects that you don't need to add pedals. In any event if using the sub-out on your FA is an option, that would trump the hardware switchers for easy of use and reliability when using external processing. It's a very helpful technique for separately amplifying bass, or effecting a lead voice. We all go through cycles of adding complexity and discarding it. It may well be that after awhile you don't think the outboard gear is worth the hassle. Only you can decide. And sometimes you don't know unless you try. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffincltnc Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Are you still using a Vent with the Nord Stage, Chuck? Quote Yamaha U1 Upright, Roland Fantom 8, Nord Stage 4 HA73, Nord Wave 2, Korg Nautilus 73, Viscount Legend Live, Lots of Mainstage/VST Libraries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 Got it!, Subout works perfectly after selecting from 'Part View>Output/EFX' for each patch, so I can send only for the selected patch! Tks everyone for the brainstorming and Joe P. for enlightening idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Glad I was able to help! Subout --> Audio In can also be used as an effects loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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