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This is the rainiest summer in anybody's memory here in upstate New York, and it has put a bit of a damper on everyone's eager return to outdoor live performance. I had a pretty harrowing one yesterday -- a private event on a big property belonging to some folks with, I suspect, a boatload of money, because they hired four bands doing mostly original material (two from out of state), a sound company, catering, set up camping on the grounds... and then it poured all afternoon.

 

I just have to say that I've never been so close to bailing on a gig after loadin. I set up my rig (for this band, a reasonably sizeable one consisting of the Mojo XT, Novation Ultranova, and for the first time the CP88, all running through a Motionsound KBR-3D) between two buckets catching the drips where the tenting over the stage was leaking. Made it through the set safe and almost entirely dry, but I really felt bad for the sound guy that day. After we tore down I went "ah, so, those XLRs are just running through puddles of water, EXCELLENT!"

 

That said, the attendees were very happy to stand in the rain and rock out. Despite the anxiety about the weather, it was a really fun gig overall. The drummer did say to me afterward "I kept expecting to look over at you and see your hair standing up like you were touching the electricity globe at the science center!"

 

Who else has made some questionable calls regarding outdoor performance and weather?

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On the opposite spectrum, I played in a park on a hot sunny day with no shade. That night I had heat exhaustion.

 

One July morning I helped my Dad re-surface his driveway. After that was finished I washed off some blacktop tar from my ankle using a rag damp with gasoline, then went to play two shows later in the day. Show #1 was in a park with no shade in hot sunny July weather. I'm playing show #2 later that night and I feel an itching sensation in my ankle. It progresses to a burning sensation and whenever I'm not playing anything on the keyboard I'm scratching my ankle furiously. But no visible skin symptoms. By the end of night the burning was bad, and it dawned on me what had happened. When I washed off the blacktop tar from my ankle, I neglected to wash off the gasoline. The gasoline had soaked below the skin surface, the hot daytime sun ignited it, by night it was burning beneath the skin where I couldn't get to it. By the next day the burning had stopped. I didn't suffer any skin burns in a medical sense or need any medical attention, but a week later there was a lot of peeling skin at that ankle.

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And don't ever play a gig where flash flood warnings are in effect, even if you are sheltered or in a building. Flash floods can be extremely dangerous and they can wipe out a building with little notice. I haven't experienced them, but I've seen the damage.
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About four years ago one of my bands played a house party where we were set up on a large unprotected patio. It was overcast the entire day, and during our last set the rain began with a fine mist that would nearly evaporate upon hitting my keys. I warned our lead singer/BL, who probably would play through a torrential downpour, but he continued on. The frequency of my warnings increased in direct proportion to the intensity of the rain, which gradually increased to a very light drizzle. After wiping off my keys for the second time (which probably was two times too many), I finally said, 'that"s it' and powered off my rig. Fortunately, I was able to quickly get everything packed up and loaded in my truck, as it then began raining much harder.

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It's been an aeroswamp the past couple weeks, here in NW IN. So far I've dodged any serious weather while gigging, but we're barely halfway through the outdoor fest/party season. Nothing beyond the low 90's yet (mid to upper 80s, typically), but the dewpoints have been tropical more than a few times - the soak-thru-your-clothes kind of gigs.

 

Back in 2004, I played an August evening festival in a south suburb of Chicago. A massive line of thunderstorms starting moving in around 9:45 pm; we were scheduled to play til 10. The bandleader decided to tough it out, and stupidly attempted to complete the show. But the deluge hit seconds after our closing chord. We were on the street, with a very basic portable cover, so had to rush our gear to a nearby tent. Meanwhile it took four cops to hold the metal legs and keep the cover from blowing away. Everyone was soaked through in seconds, and the gear didn't fare much better. When finally at home, I had gear opened up all over the place to dry out. I think about a quart of water was poured out of my Speakeasy AMA Pre-amp pedal. I wanted to tar-n-feather that band leader, then run him out of town on a rail car..ð

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I did an AWB gig a few years back, a municipal-sponsored event in a park, with a totally uncovered stage. The weather was threatening all day but they decided to go ahead and got our gear out on stage when it started to drizzle. We pulled the plug. How idiotic do you have to be to plan an outdoor event, hire a pro sound crew, contract with a band for thousands of dollars, pay for hotel rooms, etc. and not have any covering on stage? IIRC it drizzled on the opener and they just soldiered through. Stupid and risky if you ask me.

 

To add to the story, the promoter hired by the city asked us to move our setup to a room in the hotel we we staying at. This wasn't a pre-arranged contingency plan; the person expected that, on zero notice, the sound co. would move their PA and we'd move all our gear to a conference room that he or she assumed would be available to use.

 

This was a driving gig. We got back in our rented vans the next morning and drove 9 hrs home. Three days on the road, 18 hours in a van, no gig! Could have been worse though - we were paid in full.

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The main thing to remember is to assume those involved in planning or making decisions about cancelling a given outdoor event won't have as their primary, secondary, or tertiary concerrn whether or not you and your equipment get rained on. Or if you or your equipment shut down from heat and sun exposure, for that matter. BYO cover, if possible, and be prepared to walk away before those in charge are ready to call it. The show must go on until it must not.
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What is the phenomenon called rain you speak of ? ;)

It's sort of like a billion people spitting on you at once. Quite exciting!

 

A couple of summers ago we had a festival gig on a scheduled rainy night, using a flat tractor-trailer (like, 53' [16 meters] long) as our stage. We were initially supposed to power our whole rig through one orange household extension cord tat was plugged into a lamp post and shared -- I mean it -- with an ice machine. We gently bitched and hollered until they found us a 20 KW generator that the city sometimes used for road maintenance.

 

I digress.

 

We had been given dining fly tents to play under, but when the downpour came, they weren't enough. Besides which, there was a wall of water between adjacent dining flies. I promoted myself to bandleader for that occasion, and ended the gig.

 

Fortunately, we had a rain-out clause in our contract, so we got full pay. But they didn't invite us back.

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What is the phenomenon called rain you speak of ? ;)

 

Yeah we are so dry out here on the west coast that it's just weird hearing you guys talk about getting rained on this summer.

 

I'm outside every Saturday. We had some light drizzle about a month ago, but other than that nothing. About half the space is under canopies - including myself - so it was a non-issue. What being under a canopy does to your sound... now that's in issue!

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I have 2 near disasters. As far as what to do, pull the main power plug, grab the most valuable things first and get them under shelter.

 

Was doing a duo gig at a backyard paella party, the weather was a little blustery but puffy white clouds and no rain - yet. This was in early August but anything can happen in Bellingham and it will.

 

We were alternating hanging out, eating and playing sets. We just started the third set, the wind came up and the sky turned dark with rainclouds. Seconds later the rain fell profusely, all of the gazebo thingies on the lawn were starting to collapse with pockets of water and party goers were pushing those bulges up and dumping the water on the ground. We got our gear inside and helped with the disaster outside.

 

EVERYBODY was wet. Nothing blew up. The end.

 

2. We were booked to play the annual Festival of the River down near Arlington. It was a cloudy day but nice and one of the tribes was performing a rain dance off in the distance, the drumming sounded nice.

They had us scheduled just before Buffy St. Marie and they had Rick Springfield booked for the next day.

Pro set up, casino money. HUGE stage with a roof up about 30 feet so spectators could see the gigantic video screen behind the stage. The PA rig was flown and it was gigantic. We set up, did sound check and went to hang out in the green room for 15 minutes. Suddenly, a torrential downpour of Biblical proportions ensued. By the time I made it to the stage I was soaked head to toe and walking in about 3 inches of water. There were ponds on the stage, not puddles - ponds. The crew wanted us to get the hell away from there since there was thunder and lightning. They'd pulled the power mains and were covering up their amp racks while yelling at us. I grabbed my stuff, some stagehands helped us put it in our vehicles. The sound crew cancelled the rest of that day's music and cancelled the next day too, their gear had gotten wet and they were drawing enough amps through their wrist thick power cords to leave a smoldering crater if stuff blew up. So they bagged it.

 

We had a gig that evening and something told me not to turn my amp on until I could take it apart. We'd left our humble PA and such in the vehicles so we went to the gig and the bassist let me borrow his Ampeg DI box with a footswitchable Scrambler (sort of a 90 year old fuzz tone with no teeth, drunk). It was less worse than not playing but not by much. We did OK they've hired us a couple of times since then. No rain, nice folks and great food. I was still soaking wet, never occurred to us to bring a change of clothing and towels. Pretty clammy but I've been through worse and I always take beater guitars for gigs anyway.

 

When I got home I pulled the head out of my combo amp and it was wet inside. I dried it out, let it sit for a couple of days and it was fine.

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Well the Yes tour I did we ended up playing the last show of the tour outdoors in the rain. We were booked for the biggest $$$ night of the tour in New York, well actually Roosevelt Stadium in Union City NJ. We showed up and it looked like rain so we dragged our feet knowing the show would be canceled. Well all except the Clair Brothers who was doing the PA. Clair's contract said if they PA is up and functional they get paid show or no show. Well it finally started to drizzle and Clair still got his system up enough to say testing 1, 2, 3, and power everything off. Clair was still packing up as the rain came down. So show was canceled and Yes managers said we still have a couple dates we'll play those and the rain in NYC should of past and will come back and do the show at the end.

 

So a week later we're back in NYC and it's still raining. Yes managers said a lot of money is at stake we'll sit out the rain. Well they started calculation cost of keep a 40 person crew sitting around for another week and said it might stop tomorrow will do the show tomorrow. They did get the venue to put up a big plastic cover that shielded most the stage. We setup and it started looking bad. They said screw it the show is going on. So one poor guy was picked to wear a full set up rain gear and rubber boots and be positioned at the main power pole in case it goes real bad he can cut the main power. He was not a happy camper. I was picked to handle right side stage power and stationed and a junction box for that, at least I was under the plastic and not standing in 6" of water like the other guy. Show started and no rain, then the rain came, but the wind came and was blowing some rain onto the stage. No one was too happy but they did get a shorten show and and management got their big $$$ show done. Everyone was happy that was the last show of the tour.

 

I think I was the only guy heading back to the West Coast so management was cool and got me a limo the next day to take me to the airport.

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Not sure if I've ever told the story of the crazy wedding I did in Paris. It is easily the most balling, high-roller gig I have ever done. (I'll tell the whole story in a KC hang or with a beverage in person.)

 

The details that are pertinent to this thread: we were playing outside, tented â completely protected from the elements, but the generator wasn't. In the middle of playing I realize I had no sound, I look at my monitor, look at the techs, and then realize there are no lights on the Nord. The bass player and I look at each other, run over to the percussion table, grab what isn't being played, and continued as percussion/horns/vocals until the frazzled French technicians could get the generator back up and running.

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With our band, we are always very clear about rain cancellations.

Cancellation before set-up: no pay (at least for local gigs)

Cancellation after set-up: 50% pay

Cancellation after the show starts, even if we play literally one note: full pay.

 

We always clearly tell the manager that the rule is "One drop and the show is over". We have too much $$$ invested onstage in acoustic and electric stuff to stupidly risk it for a few hundreds quids. Anyway, we always bring plastic sheets, tarps and bags in case of an emergency.

 

 

We've lost a couple of good gigs over the years for being so strict, but honestly we all think it's not worth the risk and the stress.

With past bands I got rained on in a couple of occasions, and once the basement where I kept my Nord Stage was flooded. Not keen to repeat those experiences.

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Once did an outdoor festival in the middle of winter. Was so cold I had gloves on by the second song. Didn't care that my hands were slipping all over the keys due to the wool...it was better than having immobile sausage finges.

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It was a church festival. We were set up on a rather deep stage where only the back half was under cover. Being a nice day and no known threat of rain, we set up mostly in the uncovered section. But then here comes a down pour. As I am frantically disassembling and moving my rig under cover, a friend of the BL invited about 40 people under the cover in order to organize a fund raiser. Needless to say, most of my gear got soaked. My roadie (a.k.a.my wife) and I hovered over the boards to keep them dry. Luckily there was no permanent damage. But another reminder of how oblivious and inconsiderate some can be.

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Our band has seen 4 rain cancelations since July 1 (with 3 of them re-scheduled). The only thing is (the way the weather is going this summer), the re-scheduled dates might end up being rain-outs as well. :(

 

This has packed my August calendar full... just wondering how many of those dates we'll be able to hold onto.

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A few summers ago my band had a gig on the stage shown below (that's not us in the picture). We had just gotten set up and were ready to soundcheck when one of the sound guys ran up and said we needed to take cover RTFN. The weather app on his phone showed a nasty, localized storm cell headed directly for us. It was moving too fast for us to tear down, so we scrambled around to get everything covered. I unplugged my keyboard rig, got everything (pedals, power strip) off the ground, and covered it with one of the tarps I take to every gig.

 

The wind got there first and started whipping all the tarps around. I crouched under my keyboard rig, desperately gripping the four corners of my tarp. The sound company had a portable tent like the one in the picture over their sound board, but the wind started to whisk it away. Two of the sound guys ducked under it, lowered it onto the console, and fought to hold it down.

 

Then came the downpour. Even though the stage is covered, it's open all around so the wind drove the rain in sheets across the stage. The rain only lasted maybe 5 minutes, but when it was over there was water standing everywhere on the stage.

 

Luckily, our band's gear made it relatively unscathed and the sound company's console was spared. But... they had just purchased new subs and line arrays for the mains. The line arrays were stacked on top of the subs, which were mounted on wheels -- that they had neglected to lock. During the storm, the winds sent both stacks rolling off the front of the stage and crashing down the stairs onto the concrete. The backs of the cabinets then filled up with water.

 

When the storm had passed, the promoter came out of hiding, surveyed the damage -- the standing water, band and sound company looking like drowned rats, the crashed mains -- and asked, "So, will y'all still be able to play?"

 

Um, no.

 

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But then here comes a down pour. As I am frantically disassembling and moving my rig under cover, a friend of the BL invited about 40 people under the cover in order to organize a fund raiser. Needless to say, most of my gear got soaked. My roadie (a.k.a.my wife) and I hovered over the boards to keep them dry. Luckily there was no permanent damage. But another reminder of how oblivious and inconsiderate some can be.

 

This happened to me once...and only once....some "friends" of my band thought it'd be cool to come up and congregate int he one dry area on the stage during a freak downpour. I just simply kept moving my gear out of harms way. If I happened to "Accidentally" run into a non-band member or non-productions person... well sucks for them.

 

Luckily for the last several years, all of the large outdoor festivals where we're contracted to play; the pro sound companies have plenty of excellent waterproof large tarps, and their 'roadies' come on stage and help cover our gear and make sure it stays covered.

While it's not required nor expected, each of us in the band usually spot the guy specifically assigned to us with helping with our personal gear at least a $20 bill for helping us save a few thousand in equipment.

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I'm in Florida. Rain is generally a daily thing for the summer and surrounding months--and not a gentle Maine rain (which I saw yesterday, here on vacation!) It's sideways driving rain that lasts for maybe 10 minutes along with high winds. No place outside is really safe, you can be 30 feet from the edge of a roof and be getting soaked. The ground tends to puddle up quickly. Then you have the lightning, which is obviously not a safe thing to be around.

 

edit: pretty much what wineandkeyz described, that is a normal late afternoon, early evening.

 

Still gigs persist. I've noticed some of the local places have tried to hang clear sheets or have tarps that can be unrolled like walls at their outdoor spots. Things I have done:

 

- have tarps and plastic garbage bags ready. Both for my keyboards and for anything on the ground.

- bring towels

- bring my drying fan (which I always have anyway for every gig, it's a "stage black" Lesko brand one :) )

- have a handy radar app on our phones to see the storm fronts rolling in, many have lightning strike markers also

 

 

Nothing worse that completely set up only to be cancelled before you can play one song. We have learned our lesson and work out guarantees with the venue if possible (that's not me but our singer that does all that). Again it is such a sure thing in the summer that it needs to be addressed.

 

I've found perversely that the more prepared I am for rain the less likely it is (or so it has seemed) so I try to be a boy scout :D

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@Synthaholic had a great suggestion a few years ago to use a BBQ grill cover instead of a tarp. I've only had to use mine twice (our outdoor venues are usually good about proactively cancelling based upon radar) but each time it was less than 30 seconds from taking it out of the bag to having it cover my rig.

 

https://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2771358/Re_Protection_from_Rain#Post2771358

 

It certainly would have been helpful to have the year before when a pop-up storm off the lake with sideways rain hit right after soundcheck. Luckily the sound company hired by the event had extra tarps and one of the crew helped me hold it down during the brief storm. The stage was wet, but dried off. We started about a half hour late, but all was well after that.

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The band I played with in the 80's and 90's is playing a reunion tour that has 5 outdoor park jobs. The first was on a covered stage but I was in the sun with high 90's temperature the entire time. I got hit with heat exhaustion at the end of that one. The next bands drummer ended up in the hospital with it. The second one a strong downpour hit about an hour before we were supposed to play. We were under cover in a gazebo but the sound company's PA was exposed. I always carry tarps on outdoor jobs and since we were under a roof I gave my tarps to the sound guy. The third was perfect. Cooler temperatures, sunny and no rain. Hoping for two more of those days for the last jobs.
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I've not played outdoors much and only ever done one rain impacted gig...it was stressful. We were one of multiple artists performing and the weather was on and off drizzle all day. I wasn't properly prepared as I was told the stage would be covered with a canopy - this was true but it was a group of triangular sail-type shades which were more designed to provide relief from the sun than prevent rain from entering the area. Failed to do my own research beforehand and trusted what I was told - the first and last time I made that mistake.

 

Luckily my wife came on that trip with me and she dutifully dispatched herself to the hardware store and returned with tarps.

 

I have a heap of outdoor gigs coming up this spring/summer (COVID permitting) and with the increasing volatility of Australia's weather I'll ensure I'm more prepared this time. I do like the BBQ cover idea.

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The band I played with in the 80's and 90's is playing a reunion tour that has 5 outdoor park jobs. The first was on a covered stage but I was in the sun with high 90's temperature the entire time. I got hit with heat exhaustion at the end of that one. The next bands drummer ended up in the hospital with it.

 

The only time my outdoor gig this summer has been canceled was because of heat. It was 117 that day - and projected to be well over 100 that night. The manager and I got together, and it was unanimous - no way!

 

That heat wave about a month ago set all kinds of records throughout the state. It was the hottest weather I've ever been in. I had to step outside for a few minutes to see what it felt like. The time outdoors was short. :laugh:

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Rain? What rain? We need that here! Western Europe has flooded and Illinois got 5 inches in a day...can't we take some of that off their hands? No rain for the last month and none in the 18-day forecast either. The BWCA is a tinder box right now with 6 active fires, more entry points being closed every day and sections of the wilderness being evacuated, and then the Canadian Quetico fires are out of control as Canada doesn't have the resources to fight the fires in less-populated areas of their country and is focusing on more populated towns and at-risk areas while letting the fires destroy the Quetico and BWCA now. Several fires jumped the border from Ontario two days ago...the smoke has been thick here for the past several weeks, but today we're above 200 for air quality. Brainerd, MN is sitting at 302 for air quality. Our town is expected to surpass 300 soon as well (which is purple on the graph, well beyond red which is around the current 200 mark). At work (I work at a resort and BWCA outfitting company) we've been running our lake-water wildfire prevention system every day for hours, wetting down our cabins and property with the hope of waterlogging them enough so that if/when a fire spreads to us the wood won't burn as easily. We've had a number of Boundary Waters canoe groups we sent out have to be evacuated in the last week due to closures. Ash falling in many campsites, smoke billowing over trees, and intense airborne particles have been reported by our guests who were in the BWCA further north by Mudro Lake. Everything in that region has now been closed and evacuated.

 

 

Back on topic, I had a gig a few years ago at the MN State Fair where we had a huge storm roll in (monsoon-level rain where the entire massive event's attendees were all herded into large agricultural buildings) and leave the stage covered in 3" of standing water...with extension cords, power cords, mic/instrument cords, etc all submerged. Suffice it to say that I did not feel like touching that mess with active electricity running through it...so I chose to cancel the first of my four performances that day.

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But then here comes a down pour. As I am frantically disassembling and moving my rig under cover, a friend of the BL invited about 40 people under the cover in order to organize a fund raiser. Needless to say, most of my gear got soaked. My roadie (a.k.a.my wife) and I hovered over the boards to keep them dry. Luckily there was no permanent damage. But another reminder of how oblivious and inconsiderate some can be.

 

This happened to me once...and only once....some "friends" of my band thought it'd be cool to come up and congregate int he one dry area on the stage during a freak downpour. I just simply kept moving my gear out of harms way. If I happened to "Accidentally" run into a non-band member or non-productions person... well sucks for them.

 

Luckily for the last several years, all of the large outdoor festivals where we're contracted to play; the pro sound companies have plenty of excellent waterproof large tarps, and their 'roadies' come on stage and help cover our gear and make sure it stays covered.

While it's not required nor expected, each of us in the band usually spot the guy specifically assigned to us with helping with our personal gear at least a $20 bill for helping us save a few thousand in equipment.

 

Cool I am so glad for roadies as well. Gosh I remember doing all the Journey tunes in my younger years band. Nice to seeing your band doing very well.

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