To B3 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Don´t know if i´s final or just a design, but it´s on their Facebook page. Looks like a spinet clone? 49 diving board keys on each manual. https://www.facebook.com/instruments.crumar/posts/1569400096587140 Quote My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Crumar T3 were cool. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I wish you folks would STOP using Facebook. I closed my Facebook account years ago because they have a nasty habit of suspending people that don't agree with them. There are other platforms like Youtube that are better anyway. Mike T. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I wish you folks would STOP using Facebook. It's Crumar who chooses to communicate with the world mostly via Facebook. When I worked with them, that's usually how I found out what they were up to. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Yeah Brother Dave. I saw it was a Facebook link in the initial Post. I pass, Mike T. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I closed my Facebook account years ago because they have a nasty habit of suspending people that don't agree with them. Mike T. Indeed (though, not as overt as twitter). But back to the OP - i find the choice of diving board keys to be odd. I know there were many organs that used them, but it seems limiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I wish you folks would STOP using Facebook. I closed my Facebook account years ago because they have a nasty habit of suspending people that don't agree with them. There are other platforms like Youtube that are better anyway. Mike T. Delaware Dave posted this link on the VB3m thread https://www.facebook.com/instruments.crumar/photos/pcb.1569400096587140/1569398886587261/ Don"t need an account (I"m not on FB either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I closed my Facebook account years ago because they have a nasty habit of suspending people that don't agree with them. Mike T. Indeed (though, not as overt as twitter). But back to the OP - i find the choice of diving board keys to be odd. I know there were many organs that used them, but it seems limiting. If they play and feel like a Hammond spinet I would be OK with that. Maybe they are going with the Fatar TP8S ? The one used on the Prophet 6 and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 My L100P has 44 dual manual diving board keys. Guido leans to authenticity so I can understand his reason for diving board keys and frankly it has 5 more keys than my portable spinet. I guess where I'm scratching my head is the offering itself. Typically you go to market with demand so you that can sell your product. What market analysis was done to suggest a spinet type organ with 49 keys is in demand? He doesn't have a 73 key single manual controller with drawbars with his Gemini built in (the Electro killer) in his arsenal. Why not? If he had offered that vs. this spinet I would think that there would be more demand. I would love to understand what his market analysis is based on and who is supplying the offering ideas...... Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Interesting that the single manual offering that he showed last week was a GM labs offering and the dual manual big brother has a Crumar Logo. The companies (GSI, Crumar and GM Labs) and the offerings to me are one big mess from a customer facing perspective. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think it shakes out like this: GSI -- the main company, selling hardware and software Crumar -- the division that sells only hardware that has a vintage aesthetic, sold through mainstream channels with associated service and support GM Labs -- hardware offered as kit or pre-assembled, sold direct, with minimal support Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgxk3 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Nice piece of hardware. Now please bring back the Hamichord. ð Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 No single manual DMC host for the Gemini? Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 No single manual DMC host for the Gemini? Fixed Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 No single manual DMC host for the Gemini? Fixed Tee hee hee. It never gets old. At least not for me! Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 No single manual DMC host for the Gemini With 73 Keys.. Fixed.... Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill bosco Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 a spinet , why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davinwv Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Nice piece of hardware. Now please bring back the Hamichord. ð I've got one (controller only - no computer inside) that I am about to part with if you are interested. I wouldn't normally do this, but I know it is a rare piece, especially in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Nice piece of hardware. Now please bring back the Hamichord. ð I've got one (controller only - no computer inside) that I am about to part with if you are interested. I wouldn't normally do this, but I know it is a rare piece, especially in the US. And coincidentally, I have the controller board, but not the keyboard! Which I, likewise, would part with. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 a spinet clone? 49 diving board keys on each manual. who needs when there are single- and dual manual Crumar organs w/ waterfall actions available already. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Guido leans to authenticity ... O.k., then I´ll wait for the release of high grade authentic EKO Tiger and Philicorda clones ! A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt W Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Flashback to the neighbor girl playing Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head on her Yamaha Electone B-4DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 who needs when there are single- and dual manual Crumar organs w/ waterfall actions available already. I do like the clear panel on top to make it easier to put another board above, but that's not enough. I think it would even have to be some compbination of significantly smaller (which it doesn't appear to be), lighter, or cheaper. I think the blank panel to the right of the lower manual is odd... I'd rather see another octave of keys there (so you'd have 61+49, instead of a pair of 49), since that would appear to have no affect on the size and minimal impact on weight (the variable there being how heavy an octave of diving board keys would be, compared to the piece of whatever's there now). Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgxk3 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Dave, PM sent. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I think it shakes out like this: GSI -- the main company, selling hardware and software Crumar -- the division that sells only hardware that has a vintage aesthetic, sold through mainstream channels with associated service and support GM Labs -- hardware offered as kit or pre-assembled, sold direct, with minimal support Why is the single manual version being offered by GMLabs and the dual manual version being offered by Crumar? Again, customer confusion. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Why is the single manual version being offered by GMLabs and the dual manual version being offered by Crumar? Again, customer confusion. They aren´t comparable anyway ´cause "the GM Labs single manual" thing is a controller w/ waterfall action for VB3-2. I understand the Crumar dual manual "spinet" model is an organ already. Plz correct me if I´m wrong ... A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazKeys Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I think the blank panel to the right of the lower manual is odd... I'd rather see another octave of keys there (so you'd have 61+49, instead of a pair of 49), since that would appear to have no affect on the size and minimal impact on weight (the variable there being how heavy an octave of diving board keys would be, compared to the piece of whatever's there now). I don't think Fatar make 49 waterfall keyboard. So 49 key waterfalls would be a special build - probably too expensive? Unless you can fit the keys and action on a TP9/S frame. Would that end up being a 49 diving board over 61 waterfall? It's a head scratcher for sure. http://www.fatar.com/Pages/TP_9S.htm Note that this keyboard isn't available with 61 keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 good point that the TP9S is not available in 61, and that could be what he's using. In a 61+49 combo, I don't necessarily have a strong preference about waterfall or not, but I can see where it might look goofy to have one of each... Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Is it the marketing dept that depressed and colourized the high C keys on both manuals in the photo? What"s that all about? And yeah, I"d figure out something for the right block on the lower. Phone/iPad shelf with charging port comes to mind. I"m pretty sure I had an ashtray there on my old L-100. https://www.facebook.com/instruments.crumar/photos/pcb.1569400096587140/1569398886587261/ Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 ...I"m pretty sure I had an ashtray there on my old L-100. You could always Velcro one of these in that space. Only $15.00. Klonk Quote "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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