d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I'm wondering what's up with him. He did live in Bangkok tonight, and all I can say is that it was terrible. Stuttered runs, missing notes, lots of mistakes I would never have thought would come from this guitar virtuoso. From the look of his on stage, I thought he could be very tired from a lot of tours. Sound wasn't impressive either. I was near the FOH, and the sound was very trebly that it almost made my ears bleed. I don't know what the engineers were doing. They tried, I could hear that, but through to the end of the performance, it still wasn't OK. Maybe it's just another bad performance among his other zillion excellent ones. Then I could only blame my bad luck... ...beginner struggling to become a better beginner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Wow thats too bad,last time I seen him he was dead nuts.It's good to see we all can be human. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanner Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i have seen shows of his like that... i got his records-go see his shows-read everthing on him and his quest for tone... but i DONT hear it at these shows of his...they get too loud too quick and its not fun to listen to...but hey, thats just me. s AMPSSOUNDBETTERLOUDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Where was the Show? He rarely has an off night, but as Lava sez: It's good to see we all can be human. Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 The show was held in SCB Park, Bangkok, Thailand. And, yes, it's good to see we all can be human. ...beginner struggling to become a better beginner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Jazz Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i had a similar experience a few years ago, but my frustration was that he wouldn't stop twiddling knobs and just play guitar. the whole was like this: little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs ugh. when he played it was amazing, but he was so clearly distracted, i felt cheated for paying to watch him soundcheck all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I saw Eric Johnson a few years ago and thought it was a pretty good show. The thing I most remember is that he came out before the first song, and said he had some laryngitis or something going on, and his doctors told him not to sing, so they were going to do all instrumental stuff. The place went nuts. I'm thinking "He puts just as much effort into his vocal numbers, how is that supposed to make him feel?" Later on, they did "Wind Cries Mary" as an encore. Allan Holdsworth is another one famous for hit-or-miss live shows. It's like the neuroses take over and interfere with ability. It's not stage fright, it's perfectionism run amok. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs little flurry of notes ~ twiddle amp knobs Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Dog Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I've come to respect players who kind of throw caution to the wind with regard to their tone. There was a point in time with my playing when I felt like I was really homing in on the nuances I was striving for. The problem was, the guitar setup had to be just right and the sound had to be just right. It seemed that it got to the point to where if I didn't have "my" gear, I was helpless. And I was constantly twiddling knobs in an attempt to get everything just right. I was embarrassed once when I picked up someone elses guitar and I sounded like crap. I made an effort to move away from that approach. Yum, Yum! Eat em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I've seen him dozens of times and have never seen him have a whole bad night. A few times I have seen him go a half set trying to fiddle with tones ( which even I can tell are not happening), then kick it in and play well the rest of the night. I guess if you are very into tone and it isn't sounding good, it can be hard to concentrate on anything else. Even on his off nights he is still spectacular from my perspective. Maybe the night you saw him something was outright broken, or maybe he ate something bad. Its too bad that you didn't see him on the Dallas stop on the tour a few months ago, he had the best sound I had heard since I used to see him in smaller clubs back in the early 80's. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollock Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by Billster: I'm thinking "He puts just as much effort into his vocal numbers, how is that supposed to make him feel?" Geez, I'm sure he didn't feel good at all about that. But I'm sure hes had his share of fans tell him not to sing. I actually don't mind most of his vocals.. my band: http://www.blujavu.com www.myspace.com/blujavu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 He can sing pretty good, especially if he isn't blazing on the guitar or switching between 3 amps. I saw him on one of his solo acoustic shows awhile back and was impressed with his voice. He did an A Capella bit that was really nice. He sings better than 90% of bar band singers, he has great intonation and a pleasant voice. But, he will always be known as a guitarist, I don't think his singing style or voice is quite unique enough to make it as a singer only. I could be wrong though, in the right place in the right time, he could always make it. His voice sure does out of place in the heavier music that he plays on guitar, in my opinion. In a folk, singer songwriter type setting, he could do quite well. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t: Sound wasn't impressive either. I was near the FOH, and the sound was very trebly that it almost made my ears bleed. I don't know what the engineers were doing. They tried, I could hear that, but through to the end of the performance, it still wasn't OK. Standing near the FOH may not be the best idea soundwise. The mixers usually try to get the band to sound OK to wherever most of the crowd is likely to be. You usually hear things better from the center of the room than from close up to the front of the stage. Standing too close to the stage also means (usually) that you're getting the actual on stage amp sounds as well as the FOH and the results aren't usually that great. I usually try to get a close look at the band and their gear and after that, I'll try to stand right near the mixing desk. That way I KNOW I'll get a decent concert sound Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Actually I moved to several positions to find a decent sound. Nowhere to be found nonetheless. Good distortion but extremely trebly clean, and this is also confirmed by other concert goers. The hall was small. Perhaps the acoustic helped make thing worse a bit. ...beginner struggling to become a better beginner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 As far as Eric's signing goes, I think his voice is nice enough, but it's ill-suited to his style of music. Listen to Alien Love Child, with different guest singers, or his work on the Double Trouble album with all the guests. Lot's of people have this problem. Pete Townshend said that one of his problems was that he thought his signing voice sounded like Andy Williams (!) which was not good for the music the Who was doing, and also made him self-conscious about his early solo work. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t: Actually I moved to several positions to find a decent sound. Nowhere to be found nonetheless. Oh, well.. At least you gave it the old college try. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I hope he's O.K.; your description sounds as if he wasn't well, maybe even shouldn't have been performing. If that's the case, I hope that it was something temporary, y'know, the flu or something gotten over quickly... Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbue Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Saw him three times and he was amazing every time so it was probably a fluke night for him. Mix of Rock, Metal & Heavy Fusion http://www.visualcliff.net My new band...Melodic Hard Rock http://www.fallofechoes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Effect Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by Dances With Werewolves: I hope he's O.K.; your description sounds as if he wasn't well, maybe even shouldn't have been performing. If that's the case, I hope that it was something temporary, y'know, the flu or something gotten over quickly... EJ is always sickly looking. Thin as a rail. Every time I've seen him, live or on a video, he's made a mistake or two. I have a video of him on Austin City limits and he messes up on "Cliffs" several times. Still a great performance. Still one of the best there's ever been. quote:Originally posted by mdrs: It's pure B.S., and obvioulsy inaccurate. I suspect it is posted for effect, not for accuracy. John Petrucci > Johnny Winter The Edge > Ted Nugent Guitar One Mag > Guitarplayer Slash > Carlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I'd love to see Eric play live. But I've never gotten the opportunity. My favorite tune by him (so far) is S.R.V. The tone on that song is just brilliant. It would be nice if he came to Atlanta and played. Born on the Bayou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I was at the Eric Johnson web site and was browsing the forum and a Japanese guy was giving a review of the show. He got to meet Eric after the show and Eric apologized for playing bad as he was suffering for jet lag. He said his schedule was to tight and he was not playing his best. It didn't specifically mention the Bangkok show, but he isn't a 20 year old kid anymore with tons of energy. Flying around the world while adapting to different cultures and time zones, while it sounds exiting, must be physically draining. I don't know about jet lag, I am an insomniac and don't think time zones would matter. But even seasoned performers have trouble adapting to changing environments. I regret that you did not get to see him at his best. On his best nights, when his tone and playing are all on, there is no one better in the world. I guess I have seen Eric enough times to notice when he is on or off, but even on the least inspired nights, he plays better than most guys could ever dream of. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtrWiz Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I've seen EJ many times over the years and he can be the best player on the planet, and the worst. Sometimes in the same show. I'm not sure if has some kind of stage fright. Once saw him, he was awful, then he played Axis Bold As Love, and it was like sombody flipped a switch... simply amaizing. Another night, he was sooo on, and at the end of possibly the best solo he'd ever played, he was doing a long ascending run, the band started climbing with him, he finished with a high bend, and he opened his eyes... it was over. The rest of the night he kept messing with his pedals and amps, I left... It's odd, but the shows that I've seen have been incredibly inconsistant. www.myspace.com/christondre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy P Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t.: You must be a big fan to go all the way to Bangkok for a concert. Dead Heads got nothing on you. Hey Grupii: WHere is the most exotic place you've seen Eric play. www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Pappy, I can't remember seeing Eric Johnson anyplace exotic, just clubs here in Dallas. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 Originally posted by Pappy Pappadopalus: d.r.e.a.m.i.s.t.: You must be a big fan to go all the way to Bangkok for a concert. Your assumption was almost correct, if only I weren't by chance a Thai. ...beginner struggling to become a better beginner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 He was just here a week ago. I wanted to go in the worst way, just couldn`t afford it. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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