Mike Gug Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Last night I was unsuccessful in transferring my new Switchfoot CD onto my iPod. Its got some kind of protection on it that doesnt allow it to go on to iPod. get this!, the tracks can only be copied 3 times (?). I was only able to get it to transfer to Windows Media Player. So I thought Id burn it to CD from there. It wouldnt allow me to do it per the artists request (not an exact quote)! (Ive got cartoon steam coming out my ears!) Has anyone else run into this? I wrote Columbia/Sony and requested that they either show me how to transfer to iPod, or the CD will be returned!. Im not about to start carrying my iPod PLUS a CD player to play my Sony CDs! Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Is this the type of copy protection that only works if you don't hold down the F1 key when you put in the CD (that's not a joke)? Born on the Bayou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Can you rip MP3's off the CD? If you can, that's one way you should be able to get the songs onto your iPod. sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Please forgive my ignorance on the issues here, but isn't the Windows Media Player an MP3 format? I could get the tracks to WMP, but I could not burn the tracks to a blank CD, which I have done MANY times from iTunes. Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Originally posted by LPCustom: Is this the type of copy protection that only works if you don't hold down the F1 key when you put in the CD (that's not a joke)? Never heard of it. Seems like that'd be pretty lame protection, if that was the bypass, ...you know? Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar55 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Windows Media Player uses the Microsoft proprietary Windows Media codec (not MP3) when you rip a CD. If you compare an MP3 at 128k bit rate compared to WMP at the same bit rate, you will notice much better sound from the WMP (same size files, but better sound from WM). What software were you using to burn the CD? It has to support the WM format to do this. If you create a playlist in WMP, you can burn a CD from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Because of Microsoft's "big kid on the block" status, they have to kowtow to all the latest crap from the recording industry and their lackeys in the guvmint to stay out of court. So the DRM built into Media Player doesn't give a crap about the fair use doctrine. There is probably some music player software out there than can rip that CD to MP3s (music match perhaps?). An older version of iTunes might be able to do it as well. The Mac version might be able to do it anyway. So far the defnition of DRM has been "screw the consumer in case we might lose a nickel" from the Recording Labels (whom I despise). In this case their rights are the only ones that matter. Our rights as consumers (and even as musicians) don't matter to them at all. Yes, Sony actually filed a lawsuit against some guy who let it be known that their multi-million dollar copy protection scheme could be bypassed on the PC by simply holding down the F1 key when inserting the CD so the PC didn't load the autorun copy protection program. Sheer stupidity on the part of whoever designed it. Sony later dropped the lawsuit out of embarrassment. Born on the Bayou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 I love you guys... Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Well, how did I know it wouldn't work for me?!!!! Do I have to be in WMPlayer? How long do I hold down F1? When I press F1, it thinks I'm asking for help. Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Uhmmm... I'd look in the Windows registry to see if you can find the name of the CD. The copies counter must be stored somewhere and should be easy enough to reset. On the other hand, hacking the regsitry can be risky, so if you don't know what I'm talking about, forget I spoke! Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Go into your control panel and turn auto-run off. I've used Music Match to rip songs from CD to my MP3 player, but I'm not sure if I've even got any Sony discs... BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadStrum Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Did you install any software when you first inserted the cd? Never install any softare that the copyrighted audio cd tells u to... If you did, try to get rid of that software.. Pier. * Godin Freeway Classic * Seagull M6 * Timothy S10J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I use CDex in Windows. I've used it to rip even a few copy protected CD's that I own successfully. Version 1.51 was buggy for me, so I still use 1.50. http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/ sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Originally posted by Mike Gug: Well, how did I know it wouldn't work for me?!!!! Do I have to be in WMPlayer? How long do I hold down F1? When I press F1, it thinks I'm asking for help. You put the CD in the drive before you start up Media Player. Hold down the F1 key (or just turn off auto-run as someone else suggested) as you insert the CD and keep it held down for about 30 seconds after. This will defeat that laughable attempt at copy protection. However, that might not be what your disc has on it. Once you start up WMP, if it still says you can't copy the files, then it's something newer than that. If it's already installed, you may be able to remove it. But I don't think it shows up in the Add/Remove software section. @Vince, I think the entry for the counter in the registry has an encrypted name. It's not too hard to obfuscate things in the registry since it's already pretty opaque. Born on the Bayou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 iTunes can rip Cds into mp3s just fine. Also, you can always search for a more advanced ripping software, which certainly won't try and respect copyright stuff. The RIAA is completely ridiculous. Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hey Taz, I like the new avatar. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 this bump is to drop the "critic" spam to the bottom of the page. i call this the "spam missle". please do not adjust your set. [big Grin] http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Originally posted by MadStrum: Did you install any software when you first inserted the cd? Never install any softare that the copyrighted audio cd tells u to... If you did, try to get rid of that software.. Pier. I think I installed the software. CRAP! EVERYONE!, please note... don't be a putz like me!! Is this software CD-specific or am I screwed until I track this software down? Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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