guitar(s) recommendation?

[MILLO]

Hi everyone, I'm new here

...looking for a fat-sounding, good-quality two-humbucker, five position switch, fixed bridge, 22 fret guitar, preferrably w/ ebony fretboard, and not too heavy (weight-wise not sound-wise, of course). I want it to be versatile and smooth-sounding. Considering to assemble something from Carvin and/or Warmoth parts. Also considering putting a Lace Hot Gold Dually in the neck position to have noiseless, neck pos. single-coil sounds. THANKS!

[Guitarzan]

single cut or double cutaway?

[Guitarzan]

i don't think anyone bought this, email the seller and ask if he still has it.

CLICK ME

[Guitarzan]

or how about a nice shiny new one....

DUAL SEYMOUR DUNCAN FLAME TOP 22 FRET 5WAY SWITCH.......

[MILLO]

"single cut or double cutaway?"

 

either is fine. The important thing is easy and comfy upper fret access.

[MILLO]

yeah, new one would be better. I actually like the way Godin guitars look, but have never played one. If I had more money (or if I was financially more stable), I'd get a synth-ready one and one of those Roland synths!

[s mel gibson1642606968]

Ibanez Joe Satriani Sig Model

[Squ]

How can guitar have 2 pick ups and a five-position switch?

[Guitarzan]

the humbuckers are two coils each, depending on how you wire it , you can split the buckers and have more options than the usual LP setup. this will be with splitable humbuckers of course.

[aeon]

Ernie Ball/MusicMan Axis Super Sport with fixed bridge and dual hums?

 

I have an Axis Super Sport, but it is one with dual MM-90s and a classic trem. (and a purty quilted maple top in trans red!)

 

*Very* comfortable guitar, especially the shape and feel of the neck (the non-laquered maple is soooo smooth and comfy)...and it is nice and lightweight. As far as the fingerboard goes, they offer rosewood and maple, so no ebony...but don't let that stop you!

 

Perhaps a little more money than you were considering to spend, but I have been very pleased with mine...great build quality and attention to detail.

 

 

cheers,

aeon

[Guitarzan]

yes, Music man guitars have great necks. i would love to have one myelf.

[MILLO]

yeah, I forgot to mention one of the requirements: CHEAP! w/o it being low-quality.

 

That's why I had thought of assembling one w/ Warmoth and/or Carvin parts and Carvin and/or DiMarzio and/or Duncan and/or Lace p/ups. I guess, I'd like to pay less than $800. Around $500-$600 would be great, but I don't know it'd be realistic.

 

The Godin LG seems like an affordable alternative. I'll go out to shops and check it out in the coming weeks...

I had though of putting two concentric volume pots for each p/up. The 5-way swith for coil tapping and a Lace Dually to have nice neck single coil sounds w/o the noise.

[Guitarzan]

you cannot go wrong with a Godin LGhmb. i have the P90 version and love it. very good upper fret access.

if you try out an LG also check out the freeway classics. and for what it is worth the LG signature isn't that pricey. the LG sig doesn't have the synth or accoustic options.

[aeon]

Given your price target, Godin is certainly in range, but so is a used EBMM...I hope you are considering used pieces, since they can save you so much $ vs. buying new.

 

I thought of another option that fits your criteria...a Reverend Rocco. A friend got one recently with dual hums and a classic trem, and he is crazy in love with it...especially the neck, he says it "plays like butter." And this is coming from someone who used to be an Ibanez player...and he chose the Reverend over all the Fenders he tried.

 

 

cheers,

aeon

[Sean Eldon]

ditch the 5 way switch and get an SG. or a rickenbacker 650D.

[MILLO]

what about this affordable Parker? has anyone tried it?:

 

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/511294/

[Guitarzan]

no, the p series are korean i believe. they are far removed from the regular parker line. no high tech parker design details except for the look.

[roddy]

Hi Geeter zan,

 

I hope that the resident Godin guru (and other Godin owners) can help me out Some story-telling first: I bought an Ibanez AFS75T (semi-hollow; 3-switch; 2 humbuckers) when i started learning electric guitar seriously. I thought that while my Ibanez's pretty versatile tone-wise, it is at its best for acoustic & jazz sounds (the amp i'm using is Vox Pathfinder-15R). Abt a yr ago, i bought a Godin SD and i absolutely LOVE it. The string action is way lower compared to my Ibanez and the workmanship is superb. I really feel that my Godin is a labor of love. Since i acquired my SD, i've used it mainly for rock-style stuff and some blues (for some reason, the strings on the SD bend easier than my Ibanez even though i installed the same strings on both).

 

So i'd humbly summarise that my two guitars give me a wide variety of sound between them.I've yet to buy any effects box though i'm really tempted to get the Vox Tonelab SE.

 

Here's the problem: I was lucky enough to try out the Godin LG SP90 and i fell in love with it! It felt and sounded to my untrained ears a better version of my SD. However i was told that the LG HmB offers all the features of the SP90 and more with its 5-way switch i.e. it has all those sweet clean tones that the SP90 offers plus MORE crunch and "mean-ness". The problem is the local dealer only stocks up SP90 and would have to order one if i fancy the HmB. I really don't wish to buy a guitar without trying it out so i'd really love to hear your comparisons of the LG HmB and SP90. For someone who's not likely to buy another axe soon (ever?) and who has my sparse equipment, would a LG HmB or SP90 be a better choice?

 

BTW I've followed your postings on the LG SP90,Exit22 and Freeway Classic. Tks a million!!!

[Funk Jazz]

i'd recommend a Carvin Holdsworth Fatboy.

 

got mine used around $600.

[musicalhair]

Hey FunkJazz, you mentioned that you were going to put some Lindy Fralins in that guitar: did you do that or still plan to?

 

I'm about to put some TV Jones "Powertrons" that fit the cavity and string spacing in mine. http://www.tvjones.com/powertron.html if anyone wants to check it out.

 

I don't know if the the Fatboy meets all the criteria set out in the initial post of this thread, I kinda gave up after the 22 frets and the "inexpensive" but not "cheap" criteria. The Music Mans look nice, there are a couple of lefties at NJ Guitar and Bass Center I want to check out sooner or later.

[Guitr777]

If you can do with dual SCs instead of the neck HB, then you could consider this:

 

Kramer Pacer Deluxe

 

http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/a4/7d/7f_1_b.JPG

 

This is a great playing and sounding guitar. I put in a Carvin H22 bridge pickup and shielded the electronics cavities.

[MILLO]

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

 

I actually already did this:

Ordered an all-mahogany Carvin Bolt+ kit (routed for 2 humbuckers; not listed on their website), which I will finish (tung-oil: Yikes!!!) and assemble myself (MAJOR YIIIIKESSS!!!! ). Other features for the guitar: stainless steel frets, no inlays on fretboard (side dots), hardtail bridge, black harware, locking tuners. Also, I ordered two Lace Hot Gold Duallies, a dual-concentric volume potentiometer, and will order a super-switch from Stew-Mac. Emmett Brown, aka "deaf Eddie", from the SAn Diego area, just e-mailed me a wiring diagram for this p/up combination:

-neck humbucker

-neck outer single coil

-two humbuckers

-two outer single coils

-bridge humbucker

 

I still haven't received the guitar or the p/ups.

 

We'll see if I don't screw it all up and if I like the results! I'm going to put the p/ups from the kit on my old jet-black Carvin DC127C, which I'm considering to sell soon.

 

And yes, I still want to try both the Fatboy and Godin LG SP90. And of course, I still would LOVE one of those synth-ready Godins. I've heard the Fatboy has a unique sound --judging by how much I like Holdsworth, I'm guessing I might like the tone-- which someone described to me as being "something like a semi-hollow, but chimier".

 

My investment ended up not being too small (but still within the "affordable" realm), but I hope it gives me A LOT of what I want, with not too many playability/sound compromises. There's the aesthetical compromise of course: the Godin looks waaaaaayyyyy better, in my opinion. Also, I don't know how the neck heel on the Carvin feels yet. My current, old Carvin is a neck-through and it's ridiculously comfy on the upper frets, and there are 24 of them.

 

RODDY: I'm guessing the Godin SP90 version will sound quite different from their humbucker version. I'm no P-90 guru, though, so I'm also curious.

[Funk Jazz]

Originally posted by musicalhair:

Hey FunkJazz, you mentioned that you were going to put some Lindy Fralins in that guitar: did you do that or still plan to?

i have been slowly falling in love with the stock p'ups, so i don't have any immediate plans to upgrade.

[Guitarzan]

Originally posted by roddy:

Hi Geeter zan,

 

I hope that the resident Godin guru (and other Godin owners) can help me out Some story-telling first: I bought an Ibanez AFS75T (semi-hollow; 3-switch; 2 humbuckers) when i started learning electric guitar seriously. I thought that while my Ibanez's pretty versatile tone-wise, it is at its best for acoustic & jazz sounds (the amp i'm using is Vox Pathfinder-15R). Abt a yr ago, i bought a Godin SD and i absolutely LOVE it. The string action is way lower compared to my Ibanez and the workmanship is superb. I really feel that my Godin is a labor of love. Since i acquired my SD, i've used it mainly for rock-style stuff and some blues (for some reason, the strings on the SD bend easier than my Ibanez even though i installed the same strings on both).

 

So i'd humbly summarise that my two guitars give me a wide variety of sound between them.I've yet to buy any effects box though i'm really tempted to get the Vox Tonelab SE.

 

Here's the problem: I was lucky enough to try out the Godin LG SP90 and i fell in love with it! It felt and sounded to my untrained ears a better version of my SD. However i was told that the LG HmB offers all the features of the SP90 and more with its 5-way switch i.e. it has all those sweet clean tones that the SP90 offers plus MORE crunch and "mean-ness". The problem is the local dealer only stocks up SP90 and would have to order one if i fancy the HmB. I really don't wish to buy a guitar without trying it out so i'd really love to hear your comparisons of the LG HmB and SP90. For someone who's not likely to buy another axe soon (ever?) and who has my sparse equipment, would a LG HmB or SP90 be a better choice?

 

BTW I've followed your postings on the LG SP90,Exit22 and Freeway Classic. Tks a million!!!

you are welcome, i really can't say enough about these guitars. actually some may say i say too much!

[Guitarzan]

Originally posted by MILLO:

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

 

I actually already did this:

Ordered an all-mahogany Carvin Bolt+ kit (routed for 2 humbuckers; not listed on their website), which I will finish (tung-oil: Yikes!!!) and assemble myself (MAJOR YIIIIKESSS!!!! ). Other features for the guitar: stainless steel frets, no inlays on fretboard (side dots), hardtail bridge, black harware, locking tuners. Also, I ordered two Lace Hot Gold Duallies, a dual-concentric volume potentiometer, and will order a super-switch from Stew-Mac. Emmett Brown, aka "deaf Eddie", from the SAn Diego area, just e-mailed me a wiring diagram for this p/up combination:

-neck humbucker

-neck outer single coil

-two humbuckers

-two outer single coils

-bridge humbucker

 

I still haven't received the guitar or the p/ups.

 

We'll see if I don't screw it all up and if I like the results! I'm going to put the p/ups from the kit on my old jet-black Carvin DC127C, which I'm considering to sell soon.

 

And yes, I still want to try both the Fatboy and Godin LG SP90. And of course, I still would LOVE one of those synth-ready Godins. I've heard the Fatboy has a unique sound --judging by how much I like Holdsworth, I'm guessing I might like the tone-- which someone described to me as being "something like a semi-hollow, but chimier".

 

My investment ended up not being too small (but still within the "affordable" realm), but I hope it gives me A LOT of what I want, with not too many playability/sound compromises. There's the aesthetical compromise of course: the Godin looks waaaaaayyyyy better, in my opinion. Also, I don't know how the neck heel on the Carvin feels yet. My current, old Carvin is a neck-through and it's ridiculously comfy on the upper frets, and there are 24 of them.

 

RODDY: I'm guessing the Godin SP90 version will sound quite different from their humbucker version. I'm no P-90 guru, though, so I'm also curious.

the Lghmb is very much like a LP with tele zing. the in between positions are thinner than a strat.

there are lots of guitars out there now that cover alot of ground. this is only one.

[MILLO]

Originally posted by Funk McJazz:

Originally posted by musicalhair:

Hey FunkJazz, you mentioned that you were going to put some Lindy Fralins in that guitar: did you do that or still plan to?

i have been slowly falling in love with the stock p'ups, so i don't have any immediate plans to upgrade.

awesome... how would you describe their sound? any problems regarding 'neck-heavyness'? Feedback problems?

[Funk Jazz]

thier sound is so hard to describe, it's kind of like a really "woody" 335. but there isn't any high end "quack" or cone cry from the amp. it's a really smooth, round, but still chimey tone. just incredibly resonant and alive.

 

no feedback probs so far, even at louder than club volumes.

 

with a strap on, it's perfectly balanced, but sits at a slightly different angle than other guitars. it's so light that a three hour gig won't fatigue your shoulder at all.

[MILLO]

Mr. McJazz,

did you get your Fatboy from ebay? Have you used it w/ distortion? sorry for all the questions...

[roddy]

Hi Millo,

 

My apologies for intruding into your posts.

you are welcome, i really can't say enough about these guitars. actually some may say i say too much!

I know the feeling of havinga Godin. My SD's an absolute beauty - it's the black pearl model. Geetar zan, seems to me SP90 and HmB just sound different? I know i love the sound of the SP90 but i was tempted by the salesman's pitch on the versatility of the HmB. With the split-coil option 5-way switch, i was supposed to be able to get much more tones. It's going to cost more than the P90 and i have to order it unseen. Maybe someone with a HmB can share his experience with me? Sorry for wanting to squeeze so much info. out as i'm really hooked by Godin axes and don't want to splurge on the "wrong" guitar.

[Gabriel E.]

The Carvin Fatboy rocks.

 

I'd also look at the Carvin California Carved Top. They have an all-Mahogony model that reminds me (a lot) of the long gone PRS Special. It's the least expensive one. The necks on those Carvins just shred!