Big Red 67 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Offensive post: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/thebigred67/zappaoncrappa.jpg I love this picture! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleCarlos Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 While I can't say I am a fan of his music (due to being musically retarded and un-refined), I am a fan of him, as a person. He is an example to all practitioners of any artform as well as being a totally cool dude ( an artform in and unto itself). God bless his soul. The picture is totally him, looks cool and dignified even at the most vulnerable moment! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 I didn't "get" Zappa when I first listened to him, or the second time, or the third time. I still don't "get" him per say. I enjoy him more then I ever thought possible. He changed the way I look at music, art, jazz, government, myself, guitar, other musicians. Just about anything. This post is like the anti-don't offend me post and Mr. Zappa would probably be proud to be a part of it! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Original caption: Phi Zappa Krappa Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 Thanks, I always thought it was "Zappa on the Crappa". Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 At least he was (is?) a guitarist. Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 No, he played guitar. He was a composer. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleCarlos Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I didn't "get" Zappa when I first listened to him, or the second time, or the third time. Thanks Red (you locrian playing dude! ) Means there's hope for me yet. I guess He's like good wine, yucky at first, but after educating the palate, it's great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Not to mention all the other players that he brought to the table. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 More info! enjoy! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Combs Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 "Watermelon in Easter Hay" is my favorite instumental of all time and it has my favorite Stratocaster tone. It's on Joe's Garage, buy it and you'll find happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abnorm Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Yeah, that's a great one, Randy. I also love "The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution." It has Patrick O'Hearn on stand-up bass and Terry Bozzio on skins. It's my favorite Zappa instrumental. Another great instrumental is "Eat That Question" which I think is on "The Grand Wazoo" album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Ok its official all you have to do is put "Offensive" in the topic title and I must read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 21, 2004 Author Share Posted August 21, 2004 I think that Frank would have liked the offencive referance Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Jazz Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 http://www.bonestamp.com/bonestamp/images/Celebs/Frank%20Zappa.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 21, 2004 Author Share Posted August 21, 2004 Classic! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by Randy Combs: "Watermelon in Easter Hay" is my favorite instumental of all time and it has my favorite Stratocaster tone. It's on Joe's Garage, buy it and you'll find happiness.I've been a Zappa and The Mothers fan since 1966, and I'm always amazed at the amount of high praise "Joe's Garage" gets in spite of it being far from his best work. Don't get me wrong, it's far from his worst. But much better he HAS done!(Christ! I'm starting to sound like YODA!). I used to have that poster. Bought it in '68. Don't know whatever became of it... Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Zappa once told Steve Vai that he could afford all his great musical and recording gear because he didn't do cocaine. A word to the wise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 21, 2004 Author Share Posted August 21, 2004 Didn't smoke grass either. Said he tried it once and didn't like it. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Originally posted by whitefang: Originally posted by Randy Combs: [qb]"Watermelon in Easter Hay" is my favorite instumental of all time and it has my favorite Stratocaster tone. It's on Joe's Garage, buy it and you'll find happiness.I've been a Zappa and The Mothers fan since 1966, and I'm always amazed at the amount of high praise "Joe's Garage" gets in spite of it being far from his best work. Don't get me wrong, it's far from his worst. But much better he HAS done!(Christ! I'm starting to sound like YODA!).]Good you are at expressing that made of your point. I've appreciated the compositions and playing of Frank for decades and understand that there are relatively few people who can fully understand what is going on (or decidedly not going on) within his music. There's rarely an unthoughtful moment in his work. He's a Bandleader who was truly the last of his kind. Hardly random noise nor the pornographic filth people claimed it was. Yes the Joe's stuff was feed for the music mill. In the collection but rarely meeting the stereo any more. I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 22, 2004 Author Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yellow Shark is the only thing you need to listen to if you are a purest. I find the social statements of Joe intriguing. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleCarlos Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Geez! This is the one true reason this F**CKING Rocks!!! This is were an unknowlegable person can get info on where to start his search for better music by others who have walked the path. !,000,000 Thanks!!! Zappa should be / is up there with the best of them. As a player / Composer.... light years ahead. As a person, a true example of whathumans should aspire to. In this mediocre times, we need a hero like him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 22, 2004 Author Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yes a vision and the ability to make it work. It took a whole lifetime to produce the one work of "Yellow Shark". Not that the other things he did where less of a noteworthy achievements. "Yellow Shark" came out to His satisfaction! Frinkism! This is an artist collective. It has all sorts of new music and other arts that can be explored. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 It sorta classifies as an imstrumental and sorta not, but my favorite Zappa tune is "The Be-Bop Tango" off of "Roxy and Elsewhere". And then there was the entire first side of "Apostrophe"... "Get on your feet and do the Funky Alfonzo!" Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Originally posted by Randy Combs: "Watermelon in Easter Hay" is my favorite instumental of all time and it has my favorite Stratocaster tone. It's on Joe's Garage, buy it and you'll find happiness.I want to cover Watermelon when I get a band thing going again. It's odd meter, but really just a vamp, melody and solo. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 23, 2004 Author Share Posted August 23, 2004 He did a smokin' Whipping Post" too. Really worth listening to! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 OK, I had more time to read all the replies here, and it's all true to me. #1. He could afford all that equipment because he didn't do cocaine. He also was a smart businessman, and retained the rights to his work. #2. He aspired to go beyond mediocrity in his work, success and appreciation are separate things. There is also great sincerity in his work, it's not all about satire and potty humor. #3. Yeah, he gave his kids weird names, but you haven't seen any of them show up on "Hollywood Insider" in some sex/drugs/police action scandal, like other children of the famous. #4. Yellow Shark is cool, but Civilization Phaze III is a remarkable work as well. In my opinion, Zappa is a giant of American music, on par with Ellington and Miles. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 #4. Yellow Shark is cool, but Civilization Phaze III is a remarkable work as well. I will have to check that out it is new to me. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Originally posted by Big Red 67: #4. Yellow Shark is cool, but Civilization Phaze III is a remarkable work as well. I will have to check that out it is new to me.It's mostly Synclavier stuff, edited together with old tapes of Mothers of Invention guys talking while living inside a giant piano. Frank said in interviews he was proud of the way they could use the technology to realize concepts that were impossible to execute at the time they were first conceived, and felt like that album tied together a lot of the "conceptual continuity" from his career. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdog114 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 His Halloween shows in the 70's up through the early 80's, were some of the best shows I've ever seen! "Never back-up more than you have to" REAL MEN PLAY TELECASTERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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