dougsthang Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I have been part of this forum since 2001 and have enjoyed the exchange of idea's. I'm a sales manager for Digitech by career but am still an avid songwriter and guitar player. Here's my dilemma, I want to share with all of you a piece that we came out with because I own one and it's the coolest piece of gear I've ever owned. I don't want it to appear as spam. I'd like to share it with all the other guitar players as a guitar player and not someone who work's for the company. I have hipped a handful of my guitar buddies to the unit, all have purchased one and are as blown away as I am. The unit is the GNX4 and I'll leave it at that. I'll await to see if you guy's think this is spam or something owrth looking into. Thanks Doug overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Please share!! It is won't be spam. although I may regret this later because I might have to replace my RP80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': I have been part of this forum since 2001... ________________ And you ONLY have 520 posts!?! kid'n "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Give us some sound clips. You have our permission. "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Lander Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Let 'er rip... Our Joint "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it." The Duke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by BiC: Originally posted by dougsthang': I have been part of this forum since 2001... ________________ And you ONLY have 520 posts!?! kid'n I did 520 in my first week. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/341v.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 http://www.digitech.com/products/gnx4.htm "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Doug...not to worry! IMHO your comments, recommendations and Product info are NEVER SPAMMY Especially considering all of the companies you've rep'd in the past! Bring it on LynnG Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 WAIT!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_49.gif Even with my $100 Sweetwater gift certificate, there's no way I'll be able to convince the boss (aka wife) to get it. .......ok. Tell me, just be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I think I did 520 in my first hour. Naw...I'm just shittin' y'all... Yes, I will check the link. To me, there's a difference between being excited about a product and spam. Sure, there will be some who are gonna jump on here with their Viking helmets and guns a'blazin'. It happened to Lee when she announced that she was doing a test thing for the new Bose product. But, may I remind you naysayers, that some luthiers, among them Dave Wendler and Jim Soloway, have also displayed their wonderful wares here. Hey, we're all gearheads. So, let us have our own mini-NAMM here from time to time. As long as it's not someone with one post for the purpose of selling their surefire way to make YOU a shred-god. Just my two cents... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 GNX4 - Looks and sounds (from description) absolutely dynamite Just WAY out of my price range right now. Staple - Not generally my "cup of tea", but I did like "Impressionable" , "Red Brush Strokes Wave Goodbye" , and maybe "Crusader" . That's sayin' a lot for me, since I generally don't like this genre OT, but maybe ON topic (?) since the GNX4 is an AMERICAN built (yes? dougs thang?) pedal. Why do we persist in buying foreign products (i.e. BOSS) when american made (or at least american companies) have the same product for the same money? Haven't we learned our lesson (very painfully) with the Japanese auto manufacturers? Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I want to hear some killer , scooped/low end heavy distortion. Got any clips??? "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Very nice unit there. Pretty much answers the questions for solo performers who want everything but a pile of gear and extra cables running about the floor. I wonder how well it multitasks. Like setting up some accompaniment and drum tracks and do your thing with a guitar and pair of mics and recording it live all at the same time. A genuine hi tech busker studio I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Nice!Can we get your employee discount? no really.... The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Nice avatar, lava! It looks vaguely familiar http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_4.gifhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_4.gifhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_4.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 sorry for the delay after I ask a friggin' question. Actually jusy got back from a GNX training at West LA music. 520 odd posts is a lot for me considering my lack of free time, kids, job, house...that doesn't mean I don't read a ton of them. I only jump in when someone else hasn't completly explained something which is rare here. Back to the GNX4, we now have a dedicated web site www.guitarworkstation.com with none other than Craig Anderton doing all the tutorial's for the unit. I believe we have one section up and running with a whole series to follow. What I dig about my GNX4.. Amp modeler and stomp box modeler featuring all the historic classic amps and vintage stompboxes. It sounds great and the sounds track awesome. They sit in a mix very nicely without a ton of editing. The on board 8 track recorder that utilizes compact flash card storage, with a 2 Gig card you can store and record over 6 hours of material. The on board recorder will also decode MP3 files, so for example you can take exsiting mixes that you have from other studio sessions then rip in into an MP3 file and play over it with the GNX4. The GNX4 creates it's audio into wave files, you can play and record a wave file over top of the GNX4. A full blown midi drum machine with a ton of preset rythyms and different drum kits. One of the presets is a guitar to bass converter so you can lay very convincing bass lines down just with a push of a button, ohh and you'll need the chops to play the bass parts The GNX comes bundled with Calkwalk Pro Tracks + (32 stereo track recording software) also an equivalant version for Mac called Bias. Also bundled is a Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and Pyro CD burning software. All of which performs as an easy handshake with the on board 8 Track recorder. You can record all of your ideas on the 8 track then once you get what you like just dump it into a new session on the computer. It breaks it out into individual tracks. Hands free recording on both the on board 8 track and the software. You arm and disarm, re-record, erase, rewind all with your feet using the foot controls, you never have to touch the computer. Why I dig the unit as a songwriter. It's so easy to use that you just hit a foot switch and your recording. Stacking tracks is just as easy. The on board 8 track machine is also an 8 track looper like a Jam Man on steriods. Technology doesn't get in the way of inspiration. How many times have you had a song idea and by the time you get everything ready to record the luster is gone from your idea. The other day I was on the phone while also just strumming the guitar, I was playing a riff that sounded cool. After the phone call I went over to the GNX4 and within a mintue had a full mix coming back at me with the drums, the bass, the riff (double tracked with a touch of an envelope generator on one of the tracks) and backing rythym tracks. Another cool thing is we include a software editor called Gen Edit. Via the USB cable you can call up all the presets. Each one of those presets has two amps (which you can choose 15 different amps) each amp you have a choice of 20 different cabinets. So you can make one amp a 65 Black face Twin with a 2 X 12 Blond cabinet and the other amp could be a 70's Marshall Plexi with a 4 X 12 Greenback cabinet. Then you can blend between those two to create one sound. Their is a whole other page for the effects and another for the footswitch routing and functionality. Here's something else that blew me away. Just go to the web site to check out all the I/0 the unit has www.digitech.com, but I run mine directly in Event powered monitors. The other day a friend (who bought one from listening to me play over the phone) asked if it responded like an amp. I really hadn't tried running it at some good volume so I cranked it up, two things that jumped out at me, it's dead quite and when you hit a note the sound hangs then morphs into some of the most controlable feedback I've ever felt Side note. I have in my studio a Black Face Fender Deluxe, a Boogie Mark II C, A Lexicon guitar rig, and a Johnson millenium. I sold my Marshall stack not long ago. I don't even plug into any of them anymore. You get the point that this thing is deep. $599 might seem like a lot but look at what your getting for that price, it's crazy Again I foam at the mouth as a guitar player, it's just a bonus that I work for the company overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Darklava: Nice!Can we get your employee discount? no really....Doug it seems like all that and a bag of chips , however you still haven't answered lava's question??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 The demo doesn't do much for it... it's too short. Do you have anymore sound clips? Or maybe you can point me in the right direction to hear more? Like I said, I'm interested in hearing if it can spew out that low-end/scooped & meaty distortion. Thanx! "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my empolyee account BIC... the best way is to hear it for yourself hands on. Who is the closest music store to you who might have one. To really hear the low end and wide variety of distortions you need to hear one. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1592# The above URL has a video with our product specialist at this past Summer NAMM. It will give you an overview of the unit but the audio doesn't do justice to hearing the unit live, especially the low end overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my employee account BIC... the best way is to hear it for yourself hands on. Who is the closest music store to you who might have one. To really hear the low end and wide variety of distortions you need to hear one. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1592# The above URL has a video with our product specialist at this past Summer NAMM. It will give you an overview of the unit but the audio doesn't do justice to hearing the unit live, especially the low end overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I have to get me one of them.Wonder how it sounds live.These pedals have a tendency to sound great in your bedroom,but live it turns into your worst nightmare.A lot of cool things going on though. Price ain't that bad either. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': $599 might seem like a lot but look at what your getting for that price, it's crazy$519.00 New in the box on some popular on-line auction thing. (That's likely close to what a company discount would be) I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave251 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Darklava: Nice!Can we get your employee discount? no really....Yeah...maybe that should be the price of admission.... NO! Wait a minute! I announce my guitars here....nevermind.... Dave Wendler Instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my empolyee account BIC... the best way is to hear it for yourself hands on. Who is the closest music store to you who might have one. To really hear the low end and wide variety of distortions you need to hear one. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1592# The above URL has a video with our product specialist at this past Summer NAMM. It will give you an overview of the unit but the audio doesn't do justice to hearing the unit live, especially the low endYou see, that's my problem. I'm stuck in 18th century England... in the middle of nowhere. Thanx for the link. "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by BiC: Originally posted by dougsthang': cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my empolyee account BIC... the best way is to hear it for yourself hands on. Who is the closest music store to you who might have one. To really hear the low end and wide variety of distortions you need to hear one. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1592# The above URL has a video with our product specialist at this past Summer NAMM. It will give you an overview of the unit but the audio doesn't do justice to hearing the unit live, especially the low endYou see, that's my problem. I'm stuck in 18th century England... in the middle of nowhere.You should move to North Carolina then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by BiC: Originally posted by dougsthang': cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my empolyee account BIC... the best way is to hear it for yourself hands on. Who is the closest music store to you who might have one. To really hear the low end and wide variety of distortions you need to hear one. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1592# The above URL has a video with our product specialist at this past Summer NAMM. It will give you an overview of the unit but the audio doesn't do justice to hearing the unit live, especially the low endYou see, that's my problem. I'm stuck in 18th century England... in the middle of nowhere. Thanx for the link.hmmm 18th century England, well the first thing we need to do is get you some electricity then have the King lift that damn ban on merryment, then all that's left to do is talk to the Bishop and explain that it's possible to create music that's sounds like a full band without being a Witch or Warlock and we're good to go. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': cosmo & Darklava.... if I can just explain 37 GNX4's on my empolyee accountDoug, lava and I are only asking for 2 not 37 http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_31_4.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Hey, Doug! Very cool, NOT "spammy" in the least, you're a regular here and if we were all in a pub, of course we'd all talk about work related stuff- good, and bad- and, of course we'd ALL want the insider's bird's-eye-lowdown on the GNX4 caper! So... tell me more about it's capabilities as a looper, especially how any stereo panning and/or modulation comes out on the other end ( for reference, I love my Lexicon Vortex's #9 "Deja Vu" Bank-B ability- with my personal tweaks- to create loops where modulation and panning of both the looped material and the "straight" signal are just enough out of sync that, in stereo, they seem to be chasing each other around and slippin' an' slidin' around. (I just wish I had seriously more delay time to work with on the Vortex, I'd pay serious cash for time expansion on that unit!) Can external effects be used with the effects, looper, and recorder on the GNX4? If so, in stereo? Can a source be processed by the effects, looper, and/or recorder OTHER THAN the on-board modeler, either in parallel or instead of it altogether (bypassing the amp models)? Y'know, so that if I had a "can't live without it" sound from another device that the GNX4's modelers couldn't quite nail, I could still employ its other benefits? Is there any kind of "effects loop" so that I could, say, insert the Vortex to work with the 'virtual Jam-Man', go into the "return" of the loop only (bypassing the modeler section), etc.? Oh, yeah... does it play nice with pedals of various kinds? Does it like fans? (See Shannon's "Electric Bowing"-thread) Have I been tediously annoying? Oh, yeah... your description of getting controllable, musical feedback is most enticing! Oh, yeah, oh yeah ("P.S."): Tell us anything and everything you can about the various live (i.e., "out loud") amplification set-ups, that is, amps and speakers and routing schemes, that you and those you know personally have used with the GNX, and how various riggings sound and perform, and what works best (i.e., hi-fi reference-grade stereo power amp feeding monitors, tube-power-amp feeding guitar-amp cabs, etec. etc. etc. ... Thanks for your indulgence here! Oh, when I buy one (I've been planning on it anyways, before your post here), I'll be sure to send a note to Digitech that you were instrumental in my decision to make the purchase! Can't hurt, can it? Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Caevan, Why can't you ask questions like, what does that red light mean? Kidding, bring it on my friend. To answer your very astutue questions.... The looper is very flexible and it can be stereo or mono depending on how you configure the track, track 1 could be mono and track 2 could be stereo. You can layer infinity on one track or create seperate tracks. Much like bouncing once you committ to the layer your locked in. The Lexicon Jam Man allowed you to create up to four different loops and switch between them. This is a bit different but you could achieve the same functionality only from a different process. The amount of time you have depends on the size Compact Flash card you buy. You can get up to a 2 Gig card which would allow over 6 hours of on board record time. If you want to get complex you could utilize the bundled Pro Tracks software. Create the loop you want on the CF card, dump that to the software (very easy to do, two steps total). Then once in the software highlight the first track and note the track length, call you set loop points and enter the start and finish time of the track, you now have the same loop going on your software. You can then create section II of your tune on the CF card, dump that into the same session on the software pasting it right next to the first section. Reset your loop points now you have two sections looping. You can then dump that back to your CF card and have both sections looping. Better yet you could create and entire song on the software, rip it to MP3 (software provided) then dump it back to the CF card as a MP3 file saving space on your card. You can use extrenal effects though from as far as I can tell only mono. You'd have to route them in front of the guitar input signal, much like you would with pedals and an amp. All on board effects both GNX and software can either be mono or stereo As far as different "live" configuration the sky is the limit since the I/O is very well thought out. XLR balanced outs with a pad and speaker compinsation, 1/4" balanced out with speaker comps. 1/4" balanced inputs for other amps or synths. It's deep. I'd probably run it to a power amp (Class A) and speakers on stage then run the stereo XLR outputs to the front of house and get some of that back in the monitors, sweeeeettttt. The coolest thing about this is that it grows some hair when you turn it up. Many processed effects sound the same only louder, the GNX actually changes as you turn it up much like an amp would. Don't worry about the mention, it's what I do. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMcGuitar Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Damn! One more toy that I can't live without! Well, maybe by the time I get a full-time job again the price will have dropped a little, then I can easily rationalize picking one up! BTW, Doug, this is not at all spammy (I suspect you've gathered that from the other posts here). You are anything but self-promotional around here. Your a great resource, and have always seemed like a pretty good guy as well ( ). We're lucky that you are here to share something like this with us! May all your thoughts be random! - Neil www.McFaddenArts.com www.MikesGarageRocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.