Mudcat Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 hagstromguitars.com Let the lawsuits begin! http://www.hagstromguitars.com/images/products/swede.jpg Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Thanks for posting that, Mudcat. One of these days I'm gonna get me a Hagstrom. MUST....NOT....GO.....TO.....EBAY...AUGHGHGHGHG "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Your just trying to get me to look at another girl....well it's not going to work.I'm faithful to my Les Paul.Hey anybody want two nickle pick up covers off my standard? caveman.... The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted August 9, 2004 Author Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Tedster: Thanks for posting that, Mudcat. One of these days I'm gonna get me a Hagstrom. MUST....NOT....GO.....TO.....EBAY...AUGHGHGHGHGI've wanted a Swede since I saw one on this poster back in the mid 70s. http://www.crushi.com/iron_ons/images/thumbnails/bob%20seger%20live_jpg_jpg.jpg I didn't even know how to play guitar at the time! Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Mudcat: hagstromguitars.com Let the lawsuits begin!Yeah, well, Gibson oughta suck it up. If their instruments weren't do danged overpriced other manufacturers wouldn't be tempted to build a similar, superior product for a lower price. I say everybody who wants a LP ought to buy a Swede instead, just to piss Gibson off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennyf Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I don't know if they might be "grandfathered" in due to the fact they weren't sued by Gibson back in the first go-around in the '70's when they sued Ibanez, even though they were contemporary. I guess time will tell! Hope they live up to the old Hagstrom guitars. Never owned one, but have a nostalgic fondness for the Super Swede. band link: bluepearlband.com music, lessons, gig schedules at dennyf.com STURGEON'S LAW --98% of everything is bullshit. My Unitarian Jihad Name is: The Jackhammer of Love and Mercy. Get yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondottcomm Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I had a Swede back in the late 70's..nice guitar!Les Paul with a New Yorker peghead LOL What? you mean I can take this block of fine swiss and make a song??...COOL! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Thanks Mudcat I also had a Hagstrom (bass) in 1969! In fact, Bruce the lead player still plays a Viking (335 style). BTW Guys Pleanse Note: The Swede has a 25 1/2" scale and the Super Swede has a 24 3/4" scale So youse guys can have your pick! Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroslav Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by guitar geezer: BTW Guys Pleanse Note: The Swede has a 25 1/2" scale and the Super Swede has a 24 3/4" scale So youse guys can have your pick! Yeah...I've been exchanging emails the last week or so with one of the Hagstrom guys. As soon as I got notified that the Hagstrom website was up and running...I let them know that their spec sheet for the Super Swede was wrong...it states 25.5" scale...but it is actually 24.75" Also...they don't mention a White Swede...but they show it on the site. I thing that was just a prototype...? I was also told that the Super Swede has an MSRP of $850...and the Swede is $750. They should start appearing in stores by early Fall. Oh...I don't think Gibson has shit on the Hags...'cuz they've been around since the early 50's!!! Plus...they are cooler!!! I have an original Natural/Blonde Swede...I bought it new in '75. I'm already planning on getting a Cherry Swede...and/or...the Amber Sunburst Super Swede. I hope they are as good as my original. miroslav - miroslavmusic.com "Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Good Catch Miroslav I hope the new goods are as great as the old ones........ (IMHO the old Hags were BETTER than Gibsons - especially the neck and feel) I may just have to save up and spend more than $250 for a guitar Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 ...they are cooler!!! U crazy The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawstrat Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Darklava: ...they are cooler!!! U crazy Maybe so, but I agree. Lunacy is what makes the world go 'round... "I look for whatever will cut the deepest... whammy bars and wah wah pedals can't be used as just gimmicks. They have to reflect and express your feelings." - Jeff Beck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by strat monk: Originally posted by Darklava: ...they are cooler!!! U crazy Maybe so, but I agree. Lunacy is what makes the world go 'round...http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_8.gif The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by strat monk: Originally posted by Darklava: ...they are cooler!!! U crazy Maybe so, but I agree. Lunacy is what makes the world go 'round...Ya'll aren't crazy! Seger NEVER looked any cooler than he did when he was playing his Hagstrom >>> http://www.crushi.com/iron_ons/images/thumbnails/bob%20seger%20live_jpg_jpg.jpg Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 well i am kicking myself, about a little over a year ago we were at the studio of a friends and he mentioned some gear for sale that a guy was getting rid of. i of course said i would like to look at some of it. one of the pieces of gear was a swede, i did a little checking and it was like a mid 70's all brown model. it was in very good shape but needed fretwork. i never did ask what the guy wanted for it. it appeared to be a set neck but there was a little cover on the back of body that had two small screws holding it on. what was that? i thought it may be a bolt on , but there was no way that was all that held the neck on. what was the cover covering? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 it looked like this. Brown Hag http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Guitarzan: it looked like this. Brown Hag Yeh Zan that one is sweet.Is that a bolt?what is that little cover behind the neck joint? The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroslav Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 My Swede (and many others) had bolt on necks... ...that is what is under that little cover... ...a small access hole to thetwo large screws & metal barthat hold the neck in place. I believe the Super Swedes came with set necks...but I'm not sure if they all did or when they switched over from bolt-on necks...??? Anyway...the new re-issues all come with set necks...no bolt-on necks...at least the Swede and Super Swedes are that way...I didn't look at the specs for all the other models... ...but I bet they all have set necks. Funny you should mention the fret job on that 70's Swede. My 75 Swede had some fret wear...there were obvious indents and flat spots forming at certain areas on the neck. I considered having it re-fretted...but the cost was silly...and I don't think it would have been returned back to its original shape...the binding on the neck would have gotten trashed during the re-fretting. The binding was lacquered right into the body...I believe...so putting in a new binding would not have been the same. Anyway...a couple of weeks ago I almost scored an original NOS Swede neck...exactly like mine...on eBay. But...the price went over $200...and there were a whole bunch of people biding. So...this past weekend, I was doing some minor maintenance on my Swede's electronics...and because of that, all the strings were off. Hmmm...??? I took a close look at the frets, and decided that I could re-crown them myself. I taped up the whole fretboard and took out a smaller, fine-toothed metal file...and slowly worked my way across all the frets...making sure that there was even height on all of them. I gently worked them till the flat spots and indents were all gone. Then I used some medium-coarse Emory paper... ...followed that up with fine paper... ...then followed that up with super-fine paper... and finally buffed everything out with a ScotchBrite pad. Wow! I was blown away by how nice my re-crowning came out! The frets looked like new! I finished setting up the guitar...and threw on a new set of strings...and then let it rip!!! Mmmmmmmmmm...now my Swede is almost as-good-as-new! That whole process took me about 3-4 hours...but I went nice and easy...just took off a little at a time. Of course...even though there were flat spots and indents...there still remained enough fret wire to perform the re-crowning... ...I just never considered doing myself before. miroslav - miroslavmusic.com "Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Thanks miroslav! i really think i should check if the guitar is still there. man it looked good, all the aging on the pearl was a treat to the eyes. it felt really nice and i think with a little loving care would be nice axe. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroslav Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 The "Brown Swede" that you linked to...really isnt all that brown...mine is a spittin' iimage of that one (except for the stop tail cover). It's actually a light mahogany, natural finish...I think that photo just has some bad color balance to it and makes it look pretty dark. Now...there actually was a dark, almost chocolat, brown and also a cherry version (and Im sure some others too)...but the one you show (and mine) is what they called the Natural/Blonde Swede color. Yes...it's a bolt-on neck in that picture. The small cover behind the neck opens up to reveal a small oval hole, andiside it are 2 large screws going through a steel plate...and then that goes into the neck. Its pretty damn solid! Man...in the entire 30 years that I've had my Swede...never...ever...had a problem with the neck (nock on wood)!!! Mine has been absolutely stable as a rock...no twists, warps...or the need for any constant adjustments. Awhile back when I went from 09's to 10's...all I did was re-set the intonation...but the neck just held true...no additional bowing because of the slightly heavier gauge. Even this past weekend...I had the strings off the neck for two days while I re-crowned the frets. When I put the strings back on...as soon as I tuned them up...I checked the neck relief...and it was right-on. That is why I am so psyched about the new re-issues. They claim to have copied the original Hagstrom neckto-a-Tor should I say H I am definitely getting one of the reissues...but I know I'm going to end up buying both the Swede and the Super Swede...I just don't see how I will be able to control myself. Have yet to pick up a guitar that I would even consider(?) trading my Swede for...it's that simple. miroslav - miroslavmusic.com "Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 Miroslav - I see the reissues may only have one toggle switch (in the photo, 1 guitar has 1 switch while the other has 2??? ). What does the second toggle switch do on the originals? Is it a coil tap? Phase switch? Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroslav Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 The picture of the Swede with one switch is wrong. All Swedes have 2 switches...including the re-issues. The Bottom switch is your basic Neck - Neck/Bridge - Bridge switch. The top switch is a Low Cut - Neutral - High Cut switch...my favorite switch on the Swede!!! I usually like to use the Neck pickup...but then I apply the High Cut to it! Or, I do the opposite when I use the Bridge pickup...I set it to Low Cut. Really nice tone combinations can be had with the two switches on my Swede. On the Super Swede...there is only one switch (like on most LPs and the like). But...the Hagstrom guy told me the Super Swede will offer coil tapping...so I'm not sure where the switch will be for that...??? Maybe he meant that the Swede will offer coil tapping...and that's how they will use the second switch... ...but on the original Swedes...it's a Cut Switch...not a coil tap...since the original pickups only have a single wire plus ground. I think they may still be prototyping a bit...? miroslav - miroslavmusic.com "Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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