Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Not all theodicies are plausible, and some are so misguided as hardly to be worth pausing over. It will not do, for example, to claim that evil is nothing but a subjective illusion, that if only we could perceive things clearly we would see evil does not exist. As many have pointed out, even if this were true the illusion itself would still be an evil. Moreover, this stance is hardly in accord with the scriptural tradition, in which evil is cause for the utmost concern, both divine and human-even, in Christian theology, to the point that God's own Son must die to set things right . Nor will it do to say that the amount of evil in the world is negligible, that most people are nice most of the time, and that human sufferings are small and inconsequential compared with the joys of life. This too makes light of the situation. Perhaps the amount of evil in the world can be overemphasized, but it is certainly sufficient to deserve our attention. Not every life contains more joy than sorrow, and evils such as genocide and full scale war are simply horrendous. Furthermore, evil would be a problem philosophically no matter how little of it there were, unless we could see justification for it. A perfect God does not make mistakes, even little ones. Or..........does he? Edited by Divine Providence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Does anyone deserve not to die? Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Well yeah.......me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 BiC............ oh BiC.......... Come out, come out, wherever you are.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_4.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Base Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Oh $hit, here we go again Fa Fa FA Fa fa fa fa fa FA fa FA FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Yeah, but would Jesus play a Les Paul or a strat? -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by DC: Yeah, but would Jesus play a Les Paul or a strat?He's a LP guy! Let's talk politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 BiC baiting? Oh know, I mean no, I mean yes. You guys are nuts BTW. You don't have to defend anything you do, but you do have to live with it, and that could be a problem. The fact is, you can't back up Christian Theology with real Philosophy, or Logic, or really anything. It's all about- BELIEVE THIS...or die, or something. FAITH You don't even know what FAITH is. Faith is the ability to bring things in your mind to fruition. Most human beings at this time and place in the universe don't have that ability. Most human beings at this time and place in the universe......barely have the ability to think for themselves. I am The Lord Wewus and I bring you FIRE! [Edited for The Hell of it] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Name me anyone who hasn't died, or won't die... Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 WeWus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's time for your meds......... Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by cosmo115: BiC............ oh BiC.......... Come out, come out, wherever you are.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_4.gifSorry... I don't come here to debate theology. Actually, I find this forum a nice break from the constant online theological debate I use to consume myself with. So, I have no desire to carry that over into this forum. But, TheWewus can try posting this on: www.apologetics.com He should get some interesting replies there. Peace "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by cosmo115: Originally posted by DC: Yeah, but would Jesus play a Les Paul or a strat?He's a LP guy! Let's talk politics I have it on good recommendation, Les Paul all the way, YEAH! [Edited by Mr. Magoo And The Mighty Hand Of God , check out our new CD] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Bic I find it commendable that you can separate Church and Guitar, and that the thread topic itself wasn't enough to throw you into fits, most people can not maintain composer when their theological beliefs are threatened. kudos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo115 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by BiC: Originally posted by cosmo115: BiC............ oh BiC.......... Come out, come out, wherever you are.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_4.gifSorry... I don't come here to debate theology. Actually, I find this forum a nice break from the constant online theological debate I use to consume myself with. So, I have no desire to carry that over into this forum. But, TheWewus can try posting this on: www.apologetics.com He should get some interesting replies there. Peace Good for you, BiC! Sorry for inference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 True. Seperation of Church and Guitar, is what made our Music great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shannon: Bic I find it commendable that you can separate Church and Guitar, and that the thread topic itself wasn't enough to throw you into fits, most people can not maintain composer when their theological beliefs are threatened. kudos Thanx lil' sis "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Jazz Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 we're going to need a bigger tent for this circus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by cosmo115: Originally posted by BiC: Originally posted by cosmo115: BiC............ oh BiC.......... Come out, come out, wherever you are.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_4.gifSorry... I don't come here to debate theology. Actually, I find this forum a nice break from the constant online theological debate I use to consume myself with. So, I have no desire to carry that over into this forum. But, TheWewus can try posting this on: www.apologetics.com He should get some interesting replies there. Peace Good for you, BiC! Sorry for inference.Why are you sorry for it? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by FunkJazz: we're going to need a bigger tent for this circus Just don't throw peanuts, and it'll be alright. "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 and if you ever mention Jesus again, I'll kick your ass. I love ya Bic, mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipotle Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Wewus, you should really check out the new Pontius Pilate signature guitar. If you've got clean hands and are into taking requests from angry mobs it works great. It really nails the tone of tunes like "Crucify Him," "Free Barabus," and "Judas is Just All Right With Me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Jesus.....that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylen Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 This was refreshing...in a kind of rip your old callouses off your fingers kind of way ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger85 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What am I missing here? I'm sure I clicked on "Guitar Forum". ...touched down in the land of the Delta Blues.....in the middle of the pouring rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Very true kylen! Let's see.... who can we pick on and make them cower now? I'm not a bully, I'm crazy, and it's not my fault, my Mother didn't breast feed me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I am not going to get into a full-blown debate here. But I have a comment. It's anecdotal, to be sure, but I think one of the most compelling arguments for Christianity is its predictive power concerning other religions, and itself. The Bible says that there will be true Christians, but also a much larger group that we associate with Christians will be false Christians, hypocrites. And there will be tons of teachers teaching things that are not in the Bible. Sound familiar? Furthermore, it says that other forces will try to tear Christians away from the Truth. The point? Christianity explains why someone starts a thread like this. On the other hand, atheism or deism do not explain Christianity. They do not explain Islam or Judaism. Heck, atheism doesn't even explain consciousness. So, at least anecdotally, the initial post is an inherent contradiction. How about them apples? I believe that is the greatest reply I\'ve ever read! I\'m not even joking. -- justinruins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger85 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What am I missing here? I was sure I had clicked on "Guitar Forum". (In some places you cannot serve someone who is already obviously drunk. They have to leave the establishment, so consequently they are usually admonished to GO HAUNT SOMEBODY ELSE! ) ...touched down in the land of the Delta Blues.....in the middle of the pouring rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylen Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Ok...we're leaving now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger85 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Watch your step! Hey man, watch those........................................................................................... guitars! ( oh crap) ...touched down in the land of the Delta Blues.....in the middle of the pouring rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimatter Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Who let you guys out? Back...Back I say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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