Blue Strat Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Yeah, I'm talkin' about bands like Screamin' Trees, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains as well as Nirvana. Who's still rockin' like that? Am I the only one still into this stuff? I love the huge sound these guys got on the basic gear they used. Kim Thayil's guitar was always cinder-block-to-the-side-of-the-head heavy. Jerry Cantrell's work with a wah pedal will never be out-done, IMO. Kurt Cobain's guitar work is simple and effective, and fits his songs perfectly. Also, I know Kurt's guitar rig, but what about Kim Thayil or Jerry Cantrell's setups? Can anyone shed some light on those? I seem to remember seeing Kim with a Guild SG copy on Saturday Night Live, and I remember seeing Jerry with a guitar sporting a single humbucking bridge pickup and a Floyd Rose bridge. Anyone know the particulars about amps and effects? BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njrocker Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I love the stuff. AIC is one of my all-time favorite bands. I tend to live in the early 90's though. My friends poke fun at me a lot for using early 90's lingo, quoting early 90's movies Wayne's World and various pre-sellout Jay and Silent Bob flicks, and being really into grunge music. My singer is positive that if we traveled back to the early 90's all my songs would be hits. But the early 90's were awesome, man! We still had Cobain and Bradley Nowell! Not to mention Wayn'es World and Jay and Silent Bob! Too bad I can't find anyone else interested in forming a grunge band... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 why not? if you like a style of music so what? loving what you do is never out of style. look at AC/DC, they are still the same band. i like all types of music. the only thing that sounds dated is when bands try to cop a sound by using trendy tones instead of good song writing. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 It's not exactly grunge, but try the album "Tales of the Knife" by Lucerin Blue. Good stuff. I believe that is the greatest reply I\'ve ever read! I\'m not even joking. -- justinruins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesesimplewords Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Lucerin Blue is great! did you know that one of their guitar players is missing a finger on his left hand? Just an interesting fact. He seems to get along great without it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by thesesimplewords: Lucerin Blue is great! did you know that one of their guitar players is missing a finger on his left hand? Just an interesting fact. He seems to get along great without it!That is crazy, but I've seen crazier...I saw a guy play bass with only, er, "knobs" on his fretting hand. And he did just fine--in fact, he was pretty good. By the way, for bluestrat, I heard Lucerin Blue described as partially grunge. It's hard for me to classify them. It's angsty, loud rock, but IMO doesn't cross over into "nu-metal" (even though I like some nu-metal). That's probably as close as you're going to get to grunge these days. I believe that is the greatest reply I\'ve ever read! I\'m not even joking. -- justinruins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel E. Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Thayil used a Guild S(?)100. Similar to an SG but I think it might be neck-through. Cantrell used a G&L Rampage with a Kahler. Not sure about amps although Thayil used Marshalls of some kind. "You never can vouch for your own consciousness." - Norman Mailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah grunge kicked ass. At least it was fresh. To me grunge started with King's X. I met the drummer and he mentioned that Alice in Chains toured with them before they made it big. It doesn't suprise me. I love Alice in Chains too and think Cantrell is a god. After all the smoke settles my fav grunge artist is Dave Grohl. I think he is one of the best rock songwriters ever. I mean in the top 20. He sees the whole picture of a song nicely. Not to mention he is a BADASS on drums. I really like his voice too. It really makes me wonder how much he had a say in Nirvana cuz great musicians like him don't come around much. I bet he was pretty influencial in that band. http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah, Dave Grohl is the rat's @$$! I've really liked everything that I've heard from Foo Fighters CDs. Ferocious riffs and vocals! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dass101 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 HUGE Soungarden and Foo Fighters fan here!!! Thayil used a Peavey amp before superunknown, then he switched to Mesa Boogie dual Rect for most of the songs. I also agree that Dave Grohl is probably the most talented rock musician at this moment. I never liked Nirvana very much, so I sometimes think that he was wasting his talent behind a (IMHO) overrated songwriter and guitarist. Dragos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by Adamixoye: It's not exactly grunge, but try the album "Tales of the Knife" by Lucerin Blue. Good stuff.They are an AWESOME Christian band! You will not be disappointed!!! Peace "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiC Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 LUCERIN BLUE They will be playing Godstock at Memorial Park in Port Hope, ON on July 24... and at Wired For Jesus at Calvary Pentecostal Assembly in Cambridge, ON on Aug 20. CLICK TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THEIR STUFF Peace "Treat your wife with honor, respect, and understanding as you live together so that you can pray effectively as husband and wife." 1 Peter 3:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 as for Kurts sound i had seen an article that talked of his gear and one thing in his chain was a sansamp classic i believe. even though they are designed for direct recording he had used one for tonal colour. and as for the foo fighters.. foo fighters rock! big time, David is one of the few guys who can be very loud and intense singing without being annoying. very talented man. yes kim Thayil used a guild s100. i have a guitar player kicking around somewhere with cantrells setup, action,relief yada yada. thats one thing i liked in guitarplayer. the artist setup feature was way cool. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 To me grunge started with King's X. http://www.smileytown.com/content/emot/shok0006.gifR U sure?.....well you did say it was your opinion. It has been widely debated as to who deserves the title "Godfather of Grunge". Mark Arm of Mudhoney, Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, Jack Endino of Skin Yard, Andrew Wood of Malfunkshun/Mother Love Bone, Buzz Osborne of The Melvins, and Neil Young have all been credited at one time or another. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by Gabriel E.: Thayil used a Guild S(?)100. Similar to an SG but I think it might be neck-through. Cantrell used a G&L Rampage with a Kahler. Not sure about amps although Thayil used Marshalls of some kind.You're right about the guitars. But this is what Thayil used for ampage most of the time: http://www.soundgarden.civ.pl/foto/kim/kim5-th.jpg (blow up the pic with your mouse) sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by flagshipmile: After all the smoke settles my fav grunge artist is Dave Grohl. I think he is one of the best rock songwriters ever. I mean in the top 20. He sees the whole picture of a song nicely. Not to mention he is a BADASS on drums. I really like his voice too. It really makes me wonder how much he had a say in Nirvana cuz great musicians like him don't come around much. I bet he was pretty influencial in that band.yeah, dave grohl was also badass enough to drum for tenacious d. Then you'll never hear surf music again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 So, Taz, What kind of Peaveys are those? They don't look like 5150's. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredmasta666 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 i love what nirvana did to the music in the 80's taking a different path and going with a different style, and it actualy ended up being very popualer. And as of today I still listen to all different bands playing grunge! I swear to drunk I'm not god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredmasta666 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 i love what nirvana did to the music in the 80's taking a different path and going with a different style, and it actualy ended up being very popualer. And as of today I still listen to all different bands playing grunge! I swear to drunk I'm not god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 King's X is just alot older than those bands you mentioned. They were doing Grunge styled music in the 80's and it was total quality music like Alice in Chains or Soundgarden with intense vocals and harmonies. I just hear a ton of King's X influence when I hear Alice in Chains. Which one of those bands wouldn't shit thier pants if they went on tour with King's X!!? They are incredible live with only 3 people. I remember when Dogman came out and King's X was opening up for Pearl jam on tour. Keep in mind King's X are all old as hell compared to those guys. I could just picture how humbled Pearl Jam musta been to be on tour with those guys cuz when I saw them King's X really stole the show completely, talent wise, and performance wise. I know they are more of a musician's band, but that is my point. Musicians worship them cuz they are incredible musicians and they pull it off in all of thier glory with only 3 guys. I think they are the unsung heros of grunge. Gretchen Goes to Nebraska is one of the deepest albums I have ever heard. They were already changing things before anyone else was. I mean the end of the 80's was all about those hair bands like Warrant, and Skid Row. King's X offered refreshment in a dry spell and thier usage of drop D tuning was very grungy/alternative sounding. http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 kim thayil used Peavey VTM heads. They came out in about 86'. Very cool amps for the studio. You could get alot of tones out of them. It had a little thing with a bunch of tiny switches in it. You could turn on and off various gain stages and compression and eq in the amp. It was a one channel head but it came with tons of tonal variety. it was the upgrade to another cool Peavey amp called 'The Butcher' which was Peavey's answer to a Marshall. Both great amps for the money. They were the Gold series that to me and many others marked Peavey's emergence from the POOP that they were producing earlier. http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phait Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 I grew up on Soundgarden (almost cried when they broke up, I was 13/14), Alice In Chains, Nirvana, STP, Pearl Jam... I read at some time yeaaaars ago I believe Kim used Mesa Boogies, or some grunge band... man, at the time - Soundgarden's stuff was fucking intimidating and hard for me to play. I'd seriously have to listen to their songs again, I bet I could play a few of them today no sweat! By the way, Dave Grohl is drumming for Nine Inch Nails next record ( www.nin.com ) - I couldn't believe it. Awesome tho. Never was into Grohl much or never realised his skills, I mean I liked a few Foo songs, an Nirvana of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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