not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 i've been wanting to set up a thread where we can post clips of our tone. my setup: strat (emg's single, single, single) into rmc wah into hot cake pedal into bad cat 5 watt half stack into a 421 mic into joe meek channel strip http://venice13.com/BADCAT_TONES.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 as usual, the sucky host i'm using doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hmmmnn... I don't want to speak for anyone in particular, but someone else around here might host your clip for ya, Cereal! (That's how I've got my sig-line mp3-link, pics of two of my guitars, and that silly "Pink Freud"-pic, thanks to the friendly generosity of James-Italy, Neil/fantasticsound, and Tedster, respectively!) My rig is usually- Guitar: '96 Gibson Les Paul Classic "Premium Plus", all stock; '97 Gibson Les Paul Studio "Gem" with P-90 "soapbars", w/ Epiphone EZ-Bender string benders, set-up for and tuned to Open-D Cable: Blue woven-jacket Quantum Amps: '67 "blackface" Fender Pro Reverb 2x12; '90s Carvin Vintage 33 1x12; sometimes feeding an early, "Mark I" GT Electronics Speaker Emulator ~or~ Modeling Preamp: Johnson J-Station; monitored via AKG K-55 'phones, sometimes via a cheap 4-channel Rolls 'phone-amp Effects Processor: Lexicon Vortex If you clonk on my sig-line, you'll hear a short clip played on the following: *Les Paul "Gem" w/ P-90 "soapbars", in Open-D *Johnson J-Station, using a bf Fender model sans speaker/cab-sim ("clean"), '70s Marshall head & 4x12 cab-sim model (overdriven "lead"), both with onboard effects of J-Station *direct to hd via n-Track Studio recording software; no mixing, other than reversing "Left" and "Right" of J-Station Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 my rig Yamaha AES 620, seymour duncan JB in the bridge and a yamaha alnico5 humbucker in the neck (nice pickup actually) Godin LG sp90 , all mahogany with 2 p90 seymour duncans. sweet i tell you. Yamaha dg100 2x12 celestion vintage 30 loaded combo with 128 preset locations, tremelo, chorus,reverb and tape delay. controlled with a rfx midi wizard. it is a very nice sounding amp. the clean channel can give up sweet blues tone if pushed. i hope to get some sound files up soon , bear with me. the pacifica is going to a new home. i rarely play it so my buddy who wants it bad is going to buy it. after spending so much time on gibby scale guitars i don't like the super thin neck on the pac 721 as much. besides once i am down to two guitars then i will probably get the godin freeway classic if my wife don't kill me. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwestenberg Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 uh, which one? Seriously I'll see if I can get something up. This is a cool idea! Lyrics. Wasted space between solos. I can't tell you, but I can play it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Ellefson Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Seymour Duncan Custom bridge pickup, Monster cables, SansAmp XDI box, SansAmp PSA-1, some delay, reverb, and EQ boost on lead: 2 downloads and more streaming audio via RealPlayer if you got it: Sounds Clips Stream my rock and acoustic guitar instrumentals from http://www.randyellefson.com, or check my metal band Z-Order at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 i'm gonna switch hosts. sorry my link is so buggy. i like listening to demos of guitars and amps. songs are cool too but sometimes i just want to hear the guitar with an equipment profile. and you guys do too. we're a sick bunch, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by Caevan O'Shite: My rig is usually- Guitar: '96 Gibson Les Paul Classic "Premium Plus", all stock; '97 Gibson Les Paul Studio "Gem" with P-90 "soapbars", w/ Epiphone EZ-Bender string benders, set-up for and tuned to Open-D Cable: Blue woven-jacket Quantum Amps: '67 "blackface" Fender Pro Reverb 2x12; '90s Carvin Vintage 33 1x12; sometimes feeding an early, "Mark I" GT Electronics Speaker Emulator ~or~ Modeling Preamp: Johnson J-Station; monitored via AKG K-55 'phones, sometimes via a cheap 4-channel Rolls 'phone-amp Effects Processor: Lexicon Vortex If you clonk on my sig-line, you'll hear a short clip played on the following: *Les Paul "Gem" w/ P-90 "soapbars", in Open-D *Johnson J-Station, using a bf Fender model sans speaker/cab-sim ("clean"), '70s Marshall head & 4x12 cab-sim model (overdriven "lead"), both with onboard effects of J-Station *direct to hd via n-Track Studio recording software; no mixing, other than reversing "Left" and "Right" of J-Stationit's got a good phil keaggy vibe. sounds good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBBPaul Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Here is one that we recorded about two years ago. I believe that the rhythm track is my '63 Gretsch through my Bassman Frankenrig and the lead is my PRS Custom 24 through a TS9 Tubescreamer into the same Bassman rig. Currently I use a \'65 Bandmaster 3X10 custom amp that sounds a lot more ballsy and alive. The PRS Custom 24 is (and probably will always be) my main gigging and recording guitar. Ain't Doin' Too Bad edit: I can't get the link to post properly so you may have to cut and paste to get it to work. Sorry. Or you can go here and click on the sample tune button. Our new and improved website Today's sample tune: Lonesome One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Each of my amps has it's own characteristic sound, but here's one that I dialed in last week and really like. Gibson LP '57RI with Fillmore pickups>THD Univalve w/6L6>Palmer PGA04 speaker emulator>Yamaha 01x Mixer>Sonar. No pedals or effects, but I put on a little delay and reverb at the mixer. Univalve Tone My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Wow! Some great tones to be had already. Cereal, that lil' amp sounds huge on your clip, a very warm tone. The Teese wah is a gorgeous caress for the ear too! I've been told the Hotcake is a great pedal for my AC30, being as it's designed around an EL84, it that what the Badcat runs? I'd love to try a Hotcake someday, no doubt with my G@$ I probably will. Randy, I couldn't get your stuff to play I'm afraid, but welcome to the forums, I hope to get a listen someday, that's a pretty slick site you have there. Kevin, I've listened to your clip many times and I'm still no closer to realising how you do the half of that stuff. Your tone "menu" that you listed, missed some very important factors~ your fingers! Paul, my streaming was pretty messed up, so I couldn't fully enjoy the tone I know "Ain't Too Bad" contained. I could hear plenty of amazing playing though, fluid and soulful, with great touches through the storming keys solo. Is there a Uni-Vibe of some kind on your guitar? James, nice Paul tones! Thick, but with just the right amount of bite when needed. The tone on some of those bends is really cool, I love the way is almost sparks into feedback at some points. You should really check out a Rangemaster clone! I've pretty much splashed everything I have around various threads in the last while! But, I'll "re-post" a decent quality clip of my Les Paul with Keeley Java Boost and AC30tbx and a lo-fi clip of my Tele with various pedals, from a live four track tape. Click for pic. Closer! Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Ellefson Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 If you don't have RealPlayer, you can also go to http://www.broadjam.com/artists/art...?artistID=10771 and play lo-fi or hi-fi mp3s. Click on "active playlist" or "albums" on the left side (it won't let me link right to that page). Sorry! Rand Stream my rock and acoustic guitar instrumentals from http://www.randyellefson.com, or check my metal band Z-Order at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by PBBPaul: Here is one that we recorded about two years ago. I believe that the rhythm track is my '63 Gretsch through my Bassman Frankenrig and the lead is my PRS Custom 24 through a TS9 Tubescreamer into the same Bassman rig. Currently I use a \'65 Bandmaster 3X10 custom amp that sounds a lot more ballsy and alive. The PRS Custom 24 is (and probably will always be) my main gigging and recording guitar. Ain't Doin' Too Bad sweet tone and chops. that's my kind of mix - kind of scuffed up and live sounding. i think i heard some of your more current stuff too. real buttery tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by James-Italy: Each of my amps has it's own characteristic sound, but here's one that I dialed in last week and really like. Gibson LP '57RI with Fillmore pickups>THD Univalve w/6L6>Palmer PGA04 speaker emulator>Yamaha 01x Mixer>Sonar. No pedals or effects, but I put on a little delay and reverb at the mixer. Univalve Tone couldn't load up the page didn't you pick up the little champ thingy a while back? a lot of us want to hear that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by Teahead: Wow! Some great tones to be had already. Cereal, that lil' amp sounds huge on your clip, a very warm tone. The Teese wah is a gorgeous caress for the ear too! I've been told the Hotcake is a great pedal for my AC30, being as it's designed around an EL84, it that what the Badcat runs? I'd love to try a Hotcake someday, no doubt with my G@$ I probably will. Randy, I couldn't get your stuff to play I'm afraid, but welcome to the forums, I hope to get a listen someday, that's a pretty slick site you have there. Kevin, I've listened to your clip many times and I'm still no closer to realising how you do the half of that stuff. Your tone "menu" that you listed, missed some very important factors~ your fingers! Paul, my streaming was pretty messed up, so I couldn't fully enjoy the tone I know "Ain't Too Bad" contained. I could hear plenty of amazing playing though, fluid and soulful, with great touches through the storming keys solo. Is there a Uni-Vibe of some kind on your guitar? James, nice Paul tones! Thick, but with just the right amount of bite when needed. The tone on some of those bends is really cool, I love the way is almost sparks into feedback at some points. You should really check out a Rangemaster clone! I've pretty much splashed everything I have around various threads in the last while! But, I'll "re-post" a decent quality clip of my Les Paul with Keeley Java Boost and AC30tbx and a lo-fi clip of my Tele with various pedals, from a live four track tape. Click for pic. Closer! Tea. i gotta say your vox sounds hugely different from my cat, even though the output tubes are the same. i wish i could predict how the hotcake will work for you, but you just gotta try it out. the deal is on my amp the hotcake gives it identical tone at about half the power so i don't need to crank the amp. your vox growls from that zep clip i just heard. totally got yer own sound there. x-tremely in your face, and you can hear every little pick attack on the solo work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Cereal, the Keeley Java Boost is a big contributor to the sound on the Zep clip. It's a Rangemaster clone and it cuts a little of the bass response and boosts the upper frequencies to create the overdrive. Not for every guitar and amp combo, but perfect for a Gibson/Vox set-up. I may pick up a Hotcake at some time. I use a THD Hotplate to attenuate the AC30, it's clean until the top third of the volume and obscenely loud and overdriven when then slammed with input boosters like in the clips above. Probably why you got a sensibly rated amp? Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipotle Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 That Badcat with the wah is very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Lander Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Bad, Cat! Love it Cereal. Our Joint "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it." The Duke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I get my favorite tones out of a '93 Squier standard Stratocaster (Made in Korea) with the following modifications: Seymour Duncan JB jr. bridge humbucker, Graphtech String Saver saddles, Grover mini-tuners, four ply Fender custom-shop blue moto pickguard. It's got a maple neck & fretboard, four screw neck (not the micro-tilt neck), and the stock neck and middle pickups. 500k volume & tone pots. This goes through a 10', 22ga. cable into a JCM 800 2204 clone with Sovtek 5881 tubes and Fender Bassman output transformer. 2 x 12" or 1 x 15" cab. Pedals used are DOD Death Metal distortion, EH Big Muff Pi, Bradley PHUZ*, or Bradley MUPH-lite**. * = Fuzz Face type circuit ** = opamp circuit of my own design both pedals were hand-built by me. It's going to be a little while before I can record a sample of this setup. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennyf Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Here, this might be fun; YOU tell ME what my rig was for this recording. We'll see what kinda tone mavens we got here. band link: bluepearlband.com music, lessons, gig schedules at dennyf.com STURGEON'S LAW --98% of everything is bullshit. My Unitarian Jihad Name is: The Jackhammer of Love and Mercy. Get yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Here's a really old clip...circa '82. I was running through a Marshall 50 watt half stack with my Washburn A-20. I might have had an old MXR micro amp on the solo...I can't remember. I don't play like that much anymore, for the most part, I'm more Strat/blues...but since folks are having a laugh at me anyway due to me posting this on the band forum about vocals, might as well put it here too. http://tedster.net/aos.mp3 Denny, you've got the right idea...cool twist...I'll get a chance to check out your clip soon... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Dennyf: Here, this might be fun; YOU tell ME what my rig was for this recording. We'll see what kinda tone mavens we got here. ok - stupid guess from cereal soldano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Dennyf: Here, this might be fun; YOU tell ME what my rig was for this recording. We'll see what kinda tone mavens we got here. Hmmm. Nice playing as always! My guess is that it's not tubes at all, but solid-state. I've got help though because I love your playing and have paid attention to your previous posts. Trying to forget what I remembered and just closing my eyes and listening to the clip, I heard the compression similiar to my PodXT on the lead, but I didn't think you use modelers so I tossed out that idea. My money is on your trusty Tech21 TM60 for all the guitar parts. Crunchy rhythm: Tech21 TM60 Lead: Tech21 TM60 Clean: Tech21 TM60 I remember you love the Wah and I can hear it throughout, but just lightly for effect. Think you also did quite a bit of EQing on the crunchy riff and lead guitar to get those results. That crunchy riff you've got really sounds great, awesome in fact. IMHO that could easily be mistaken as a huge tube Marshall/Soldano/VHT/Peavey by anyone. Of course I may be totally wrong.... My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Tedster: Here's a really old clip...circa '82. I was running through a Marshall 50 watt half stack with my Washburn A-20. I might have had an old MXR micro amp on the solo...I can't remember. I don't play like that much anymore, for the most part, I'm more Strat/blues...but since folks are having a laugh at me anyway due to me posting this on the band forum about vocals, might as well put it here too. http://tedster.net/aos.mp3 Denny, you've got the right idea...cool twist...I'll get a chance to check out your clip soon...Ted, you make a great Lemmy, warts an' all! It really sounds like you guys had a blast doing that. Great solo too, puts some fire in your belly! Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Dennyf: Here, this might be fun; YOU tell ME what my rig was for this recording. We'll see what kinda tone mavens we got here. I'm kind of between James and Cereal here, my first thought was of the "Soldano" patch on my Pod 2. It certainly has a touch of that "L.A Studio" vibe on the leads, but the rhythm guitars sound very crisp while remaining thick, which is not easy with a modeler, so I suppose I'm pretty much stumped. I can definitely hear a pointed headstock though! It's a great piece of playing Denny, even with all the crazy guitars it never sounds cluttered or overly busy. Great mix and I love the guitar that closes the track, with a low, de-tuned growl. Thanks for sharing, please put us out of our misery soon! Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Her ya go: Guitar solo from an old demo recording with my rock band. Gibson SG Old (late 60's) Champ - point to point wiring, no IC's. Pushed it with an Ibanez Tube Screamer, and A crybaby wah, set and forget as a midboost, turned everything to 11, played the solo. (proud of that one. ) The rythm guitar is a Hafler T3 through a stereo power amp and 2x10 cabinets. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A McLeod III Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Well gosh dude. Tone is such a subjective thing I'm kind of a chameleon when the issue of tone comes up so I'll kick in a couple of examples. I've posted some of these somewhere here before but we can recycle. The first: Song: Blow Fly Here\'s the link-Click here Guitar: Lead Guitar 86 JBPlayer PT w/Duncan p'ups (ask and I'll tell you which ones), Rhythm Guitar 96 VN6 Squier Strat w/Duncan p'ups Amp: (Haters bash all you want but I love this thing) Line 6 Spider I 112 (Recto Setting) for the lead. It's miked with 2 SM 58's-one center, front of speaker and other back of cab about 6 inches. On the rhythm: Same amp, Clean Setting EFX- Slight delay through Zoom 505 and for a clean sound, Song: Out Take Click On The Link Guitar: 96 VN6 Squier Fat Strat (Duncan-equipped) Amp: Carr Rambler 1x12 (mic'd w/SM58 12 inches from speaker center) Both tracks recorded on a Tascam 424 Check some of my other tunes at: Archie\'s Junk Joint @ SoundClick "Life Is Just A Game And They're Many Ways To Play...All You Do Is Choose." SC 1976 Fantom, XP 80, DX7 IIFD w/"E", Ensoniq ESQ 1, Roland Alpha Juno 2, Roland S 10, Korg Triton LE with EXB, GEM RP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiral light Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 My gear: Line6 Pod Pro Digitech GSP5 (!) Line6 Echo Pro Boss GE7 Boss ME8 Alesis Microverb Alesis Nanocompressor ART StudioV3 pre-amp Yamaha flanger pedal Guitars: Fender (Jap) Strat, Levinson Blade, Carvin acoustic & Squire P bass Amp: Fender POwer Chorus For the sound clip I used the pod as main amp and plugged into the 'power amp in' of my amp, therefore using the pod as the main tone control and just using the power chorus for amplification. The clip is a bit short, I used it as a loop on my last web site. Short-but-sweet sound clip www.windhamhill.com - Shameless Advertising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennyf Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by Teahead: Thanks for sharing, please put us out of our misery soon! Tea. OK, seems you guys know me pretty well. Flattering, really! I made this recording about 7 or 8 years ago, but I remember what I used, and I think I remember pretty well how I recorded it. Here's the poop: 1. Gibson MIII Standard. A "pointy-headstock" era guitar, although technically the headstock is a "reverse" Explorer-style. 2. DOD G7 rack preamp/processor. It's a solid-state analog preamp with digital effects. Not a modeller, no speaker emulation. Used four different settings for the various guitar parts. 3. Ross dual-15 band stereo EQ, set primarily to emulate a speaker response curve. Recorded direct to DAW (my computer with Digital Orchestrator Plus). Riff guitar was pseudo-doubled. I copied the track to another track, panned one left, the other right with reverb. Maybe that's why it sounds "thick." The lead track has more processing, specifically different EQ (from the G7), some compression and detuning. And the "weird guitar" in the bridge is a G7 factory patch called "Synthatar." I had recently read an article about using EQ to make different parts fit together better in a mix, so I recall scooping some mids in the riff track and adding some mids to the lead track to help it stand out without being louder. I did this EQing at the mastering stage in the DAW. No Tech 21 gear this time! (BTW, I usually use a TM10 for recording ), and no wah-wah. Any tonal variations like that must just be pick articulation. And the ending wasn't detuned strictly speaking, I just dumped the Floyd. Good guesses, given the "processed" nature of the recording! And thanks for all the nice comments! band link: bluepearlband.com music, lessons, gig schedules at dennyf.com STURGEON'S LAW --98% of everything is bullshit. My Unitarian Jihad Name is: The Jackhammer of Love and Mercy. Get yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by Dennyf: 1. Gibson MIII Standard. A "pointy-headstock" era guitar, although technically the headstock is a "reverse" Explorer-style. 2. DOD G7 rack preamp/processor. It's a solid-state analog preamp with digital effects. Not a modeller, no speaker emulation. Used four different settings for the various guitar parts. 3. Ross dual-15 band stereo EQ, set primarily to emulate a speaker response curve. Dang! I was just about to say that very same thing! Ass kickin'! "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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