Teahead Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Paul asked me about my influences on the Master Music thread and it got me thinking. We've all listened to something or someone that we'd probably rather not admit to at times! I spent a few of my "formative" guitar years learning Richie Sambora licks from Bon Jovi tunes! There, I've said it(!) This has come back to haunt me in situations affecting social standing, but of course in certain close quarters I will still, to this day, stand up for his backing vocal and guitar talents. His ghastly "because I'm worth it" hairdo brings a shiver to my spine whenever I see him. I am ashamed of what I once thought was good. So, hoping I'm not out on some terrible exiled limb here(!) Share with us, if you will, your shameful and embarrassing taste. The album or artist that makes you cringe! Past, present or possibly even early acknowledgement of a fledgling admiration will suffice, now's the time to own up to it. Nip it in the bud so to speak! Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlow Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Not sure if this is relevant, but at school I remember getting an awful hard time from people because I was really in to Neil Youngs acoustic stuff. Now I bump into these people and nearly all of them like Neil Young. Shows how peoples tastes change, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Shucks, I dunno...I unabashedly like a bunch of different stuff from all sorts of styles...even stuff that's not popular to admit liking. I know...name something embarrassing, I'll tell ya whether I like it or not... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedro Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 It's possible that I'm probably in the minority here, but I've always thought of Richie Sambora as a really good guitarist. I think he's also a particularly good singer, too. Bon Jovi doesn't do anything for me these days, but I still like the old tunes and I recognize Jon Bon Jovi and Sambora as a good songwriters. Hey, I wish I'd written some of those songs! Not to derail this thread as a defense fo Mr. Sambora........ In my jazz-snob days, I was sooo afraid that people would take a look at my CDs and catch a glimpse of the Billy Squier and Def Leppard discs that were left over from my younger days.... Of course, those jazz-snob days are over and I can separate what I like as a musician/guitar player and what I like as a listener. Sometimes it's easier just being a listener. Everybody knows rock attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact. - Homer Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I don't know about guitar players but last month I really discovered the iTunes Store for the firts time. You see I'm with Tedster. Nothing should be embarrassing with music. So I'm sitting there downloading all of this real silly pop music from the 60s. Brasil 66 stuff (I used to love them) and a couple of Fifth Dimension tunes. Life Is A Highway, Send In The Clowns - just unabashed, unapologetic pop music. My wife is sitting there like she doesn't even know who I am! Pretty funny. Nothing should be embarrassing and anyone who'd try to say the music you like is unhip should be shot. F 'em. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Hmmmnn... well, as a kid I was a skinny little hyperactive metal mutant with looong hair; some of the groups I liked then, I still like, while some... I guess I'd say that Twisted Sister in particular makes me scratch my head now, wondering what I was thinking. It's not the make-up and stage-drag, it's the schlocky melodrama of the music and lyrics, and sometimes horrid guitar tones! Now, I liked Miles Davis, Bach, and Stravinski then, too, and I still like AC/DC, Motorhead, and the Dead Kennedys! I never liked Quiet Riot or Motley Crue; they were embarrassments to real metal heads, IMHO. And though I thought Mr. Sambora was a good guitarist, I wasn't a particularly big Bon Jovi fan, either! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimatter Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'll admit it. I know pretty much every song Barney did before 2002. I also know all the songs from Blues Clues, Dragon Tales and 90% of Sesame Street. Then there's all the Disney stuff. Many I can strum/fake on Guitar for good old family singalongs! We're finally mixing in some Beatles in the car. Thank goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaygNY Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Stryper cheap, fast, good. Choose 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by henryrobinett: [QB]Brasil 66 stuff (I used to love them) and a couple of Fifth Dimension tunes. Life Is A Highway, Send In The Clowns - just unabashed, unapologetic pop music. My wife is sitting there like she doesn't even know who I am! Pretty funny. [QB]I still love all that stuff...and wasn't it Lani Hall who sang for Mendes? I still think she's got one of the sexiest voices I've ever heard... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by antimatter: "...Blues Clues..."I love the blues! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel E. Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I liked ABBA when I was 7 or 8. When I was 11 I really liked "Rio" by Duran Duran. However my taste has been impeccable since then. "You never can vouch for your own consciousness." - Norman Mailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by antimatter: I'll admit it. I know pretty much every song Barney did before 2002. I also know all the songs from Blues Clues, Dragon Tales and 90% of Sesame Street. Then there's all the Disney stuff. Many I can strum/fake on Guitar for good old family singalongs! We're finally mixing in some Beatles in the car. Thank goodness!there is nothing wrong with that. unless your like me and sit at the end of the sofa and learn how to play the theme to the teletubbies or something. kids music can be fun and a good excercise in what makes a memorable melody. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Jazz Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 "unapologetic pop music" is really great phrase Henry my shame in life is digging neil diamond as a child. "we're coming to america" used to send shivers up my spine up until about age 7. i used to bounce around on my couch pretending it was a stage, singin' at the top of my lungs. yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 You should see my CD collection!!!! There are bound to be some shockers for the "snobs". Mixed in with the "right stuff" is a bunch of "not politically correct stuff". Poison Billy Squier Styx (everything they've done) Whitesnake Rick Springfield (everything he's done) The Outfield (everything they've done) Winger Paula Abdul George Michaels The Cure Def Leppard (everything they've done) Bon Jovi (everything he/they've done) Pat Benetar (her husband is a slammin' guitarist) REO Speedwagon Journey John Mellancamp (mostly during the Cougar phase) Know what? There's not one CD I have from the above artists that I can't find something to listen to even today. And many of them I still really like a lot. I won't apologize to anyone for my taste (or lack thereof). Who cares anyway? I'm ashamed of many things I've done and said over the years, but not for the music I like. Know something else? I love to cruise around and play my car stereo really loud. Nothing like a fast car and loud stereo blasting Rock n' Roll. Back in Black has been in my #1 slot of the CD changer since there have been CD changers and before that I had it on cassette. Tacky heaven!!!! My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedro Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001F2V.01._PE7_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002UBF.01._PE8_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002JS6.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.gifhttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000029AS.01._PE8_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg I've been listening to these for nearly 20 years. No need to stop now! Everybody knows rock attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact. - Homer Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 there is no need to apologise for AC/DC. none at all. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by Guitarzan: there is no need to apologise for AC/DC. none at all. Agreed. They're just straight, hard, and of course, loud Rock & Roll. Dave Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by Tedster: I still love all that stuff...and wasn't it Lani Hall who sang for Mendes? I still think she's got one of the sexiest voices I've ever heard...Yeah I think so too! Lani Hall? I think so, but I'm not too hip to the singers. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldil Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I used to like Brasil 66 too when I was a kid. I also used to listen to all the Burt Bacharach/Hal David songs and I even owned the first 2 Monkees albums (hey, I was in 3rd grade... cut me some slack ) Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by Gabriel E.: I liked ABBA when I was 7 or 8. When I was 11 I really liked "Rio" by Duran Duran. However my taste has been impeccable since then.Hell, I like Abba now! I have always been a fan of, "Unapologetic pop music." I have owned many a one hit wonder and I completely respect the talents of the writers responsible for hooking us when we least expect it and infecting us with their immediate and easily remembered melodies! The word "unhip" has also been mentioned. Rightly so, because fashions and fads move so fast, if we got rid of our "shameful" tastes we would never own more than a dozen or so albums. Luckily we mature and begin to realise points of view like those above. Unfortunately they count for nothing when charged with ownership of Milli Vanilli albums! My girlfriends worst offence. Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I I mjrn Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 You can learn from what you like & from what you don't like. Never be ashamed of what you went through to get to where you are; everyone starts at their own beginning. I try to see what might be good (or at least appealing to others) in whatever I hear. So I like Celine Dion ["crap! did he really say that?!"] because she's a really good singer even if I can't stand most of what she does with her voice. Even performers who aren't particularly good, I notice if they do something I like & consider what it might be that affects me positively----so I can use it myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 The first three records I bought with my own money were Birds of Fire by the Mahavishnu Orchestra, My Feet are Smiling by Leo Kottke, and Stagefright by The Band. My only skeleton is that I still can't play like Kottke or McLaughlin. Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Hell! I'm not ashamed of anything I ever liked. My first LP I ever bought was Donovans Greatest Hits. I still like Hurdy Gurdy Man. My second record was The Associations Greatest Hits. I was in the 7th grade. I liked "Oh Well" by Fleetwood Mac at the same time I listened to Camelot. Totally dug Your Song by Elton John and Mony Mony by Tommy James. Early Michael Jackson and My Dark Hour by Steve Miller. I dug The Shadow of Your Smile sung by Barbara Streisand and MacArthur Park by Richard Harris while I was listening to Purple Haze and My Favorite Things by John Coltrane and Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting by Charles Mingus. I've always had very, very eclectic tastes and I think my taste has been good. I can go back and appreciate the music I was listening to in the 5th grade today. Music is music and should not be an elitist flag waving contest. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah, you're right, Henry; but I think that all Tea's getting at is the occasional musical equivalent to a funny looking shirt in the back of the closet, things that can make you laugh and kid around little; just bar-conversation! The title's a bit overstated, just tongue-in-cheek, 'sall. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgrinder Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Drivin' and Cryin' kinda rubs me the right way... I strongly dislike "Southern rock"-type music, but the Neil Young, AC/DC mix of sounds from this band are damn cool! ...it's Mr Stabby, da da da da da daaaah, da da da da da da daaaah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Oh I understand Kev. I'm not being angry or anything. I'm just surprised I'm not more embarrassed than I am. I do get riled when I see high school type peer pressure regarding what's cool vs what's not cool in terms of musicial tastes. We've all caved into this type of pressure. It's just silly is all I'm saying. Hey I heard some guy sing "Dancing Queen" with just an acoustic guitar once. Man! I had to stand up and look at that song again! He sang it really intensely and it was great. ABBA will never be the same for me. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 I taught that song to a young lady once! She asked me to learn it and I was surprised at how well the song carried on guitar. I think it was in A, F#m and E, possibly a Bm or D somewhere too? Anyway, great songwriters Benny and Bjorn! Gracious enough not to accept that ludicrous offer for them to tour again to, they know their best performance years are behind them. Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 "Saturday Night" - Bay City Rollers. A great pop tune in 1976 and still a great pop tune in 2004. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger85 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Somebody said they didn't like "southern rock" type stuff- that's okay, I love it. Man the tone and playing on songs like "That Smell" or whatever its called by Skynryd is just heaven to my ears. But okay, closet songs. Saw the Monkees at a ballpark 5 or 6 years ago. Not bad. Dolenz and Tork strummed guitars and they were backed by a pretty good band. Saw the Tokens on PBS. You know, the Lion Sleeps Tonight. The lead singer played a nice black Strat with a maple neck (I've seriously thought about changing my '93 from red to black, love it!) and they sounded pretty cool. Okay, I love bands. Singers with guitars. Final closet item: I may or may not be alone on this- dude, some of those country cats can really play! Check out Vince Gill, Brent Mason ( Alan Jackson and a host of others), and the relatively new kids, Brad Paisey and Keith Urban. Lots of stuff out there. Oh, and one more to check out: the single "No Doubt About It" by Neil McCoy. Most beautiful mellow guitar tone I've heard since Roger McGuinn's twelve string! ...touched down in the land of the Delta Blues.....in the middle of the pouring rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwestenberg Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Oh, yeah, Keith Urban does rock! Lyrics. Wasted space between solos. I can't tell you, but I can play it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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