madgrinder Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 How do you (at home) adjust your amp and cab to get the sound you would get in a much larger room??? I am having a HUGE feedback issue while trying to adjust my Trace with the volume up. I am trying to stay out of the room with it, but that muffles it's tone. Long story short: I want to crank my amp at home to simulate stage tone without deafening myself with feedback. ...it's Mr Stabby, da da da da da daaaah, da da da da da da daaaah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWelcome Home Studios Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 There is no difference in the level at which I play, on stage or in the studio. No reason for there to be, as I let the PA do the work. I'm just concerned about tone, tune, and getting my playing correct. I'd never subject my ears to the level that you describe. Your milage may vary. Bill "I believe that entertainment can aspire to be art, and can become art, but if you set out to make art you're an idiot." Steve Martin Show business: we're all here because we're not all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueZet Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I agree with bpark - DON'T turn up that amp that loud - you'll probably get much better tone at lower volume, when at home there is no problem, when on stage - put a mic in front of the amp and use the PA. this way you keep your tone, and everybody is able to hear you. I play with the volume of my Hotrod deluxe somewhere between 2,5 and 4 and ALWAYS use the PA, ven in small bars, just to make sure the sound gets spread instead of turning up the volume and deafening everyone in front of the amp and having the ones 5m to left or right wondering what i am playing. - due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been SWITCHED OFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueZet Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 I agree with bpark - DON'T turn up that amp that loud - you'll probably get much better tone at lower volume, when at home there is no problem, when on stage - put a mic in front of the amp and use the PA. this way you keep your tone, and everybody is able to hear you. I play with the volume of my Hotrod deluxe somewhere between 2,5 and 4 and ALWAYS use the PA, ven in small bars, just to make sure the sound gets spread instead of turning up the volume and deafening everyone in front of the amp and having the ones 5m to left or right wondering what i am playing. - due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been SWITCHED OFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgrinder Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 I can get the tone I want through the Trace 80W combo...does that mean I can quit lugging the halfstack and 100w head around??? The bad news is...I think I look better in front of a stack than in front of a combo ...it's Mr Stabby, da da da da da daaaah, da da da da da da daaaah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWelcome Home Studios Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Originally posted by madgrinder: I can get the tone I want through the Trace 80W combo...does that mean I can quit lugging the halfstack and 100w head around??? The bad news is...I think I look better in front of a stack than in front of a combo I've never needed more than 35 watts. That is not to say that I didn't drag a lot of stuff around with megawatts and many cabs (used my 3 Marshalls as front ends to preamp Crown DC 300s pushing ten cabinets) but I was young, strong, stupid, and impressed with my own self a lot more than I am now. The idea that you need to be louder in a big room is a falicy. You guys should be creating a little 'dome' of sound in which you are all comfortable, and always play the same way. That way, you never fight each other, and the PA makes you as loud as you need to be in any room, ever... be it a 50 seat club or a 55,000 seat stadium. I learned this from the Doobie Brothers about 25 years ago. They aren't particularly a quiet band, but what they taught me was that they owned their own monitors and mics, and when they played out, they rented PA stacks and racks of PA gear to fit the situation, but their core sound... what each of them heard from the others... never changed. So there were no surprises when they played out, and few differences in stage sound or level from what they used while rehearsing. I know that it ain't as sexy as dragging 7 billion watts of power to a gig and watching people's hair blow back from the SPLs, but it really does work a lot better than trying to live in a huricane of volume levels. Bill "I believe that entertainment can aspire to be art, and can become art, but if you set out to make art you're an idiot." Steve Martin Show business: we're all here because we're not all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgrinder Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 YESSS!!! I FINALLY FREAKIN' UNDERSTAND!!!! My sincerest thanks, and my aching back will thank you soon. ...it's Mr Stabby, da da da da da daaaah, da da da da da da daaaah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I play with the volume of my Hotrod deluxe somewhere between 2,5 and 4 and ALWAYS use the PA, ven in small bars, just to make sure the sound gets spread What about the idea of allowing the amp to sweeten up over a certain volume level? People always complain about amp sound at "bedroom level"(?). I never had my Fender Deluxe 90 (90 watt) over 3. My current Crate V1512 (15 watt) tube has never been over 4. Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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