keano Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 I am looking for classic Fender Strat sound along with heaviness when needed for heavy duty rock. But still has beatiful clean sound. I have Les Paul Standard to take care of other things.these links give specs, pick ups, and sound samples. http://www.fender.com/gear/gear.php?partno=0101102 http://www.fender.com/gear/gear.php?partno=0117900 http://www.fender.com/gear/gear.php?partno=1106500 http://www.fender.com/gear/gear.php?partno=0107100 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael saulnier Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Of those 4, my personal choice is the American Deluxe Fat Strat. I've loved mine, and it's great for overdriven or clean sounds. Some people don't like the sound of the "vintage noiseless" pickups in the neck and middle position, but I do!!! It's a personal choice. But that's mine. guitplayer I'm still "guitplayer"! Check out my music if you like... http://www.michaelsaulnier.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronedo Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 I would highly recommend the new Fender Highway One Strat. They sell new for about $550, are made in America, play and sound well. It is also offered with a humbucker bridge pickup if you want a slightly fatter sound from the bridge pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 IMO The best clean sound from a Strat comes from the neck position pickup, so I wouldn't mess with that config, and instead change the bridge pickup to a humbucker, I which case I recommend any of the Fat Strats. I'm not sure what the diff between a Texas Special and Regular is. Anyone want to clarify? Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I'll second the Highway One! Great value! The Texas Special (Fat) should be great with the Pearly Gates in the bridge position. More money though. I didn't know that the Highway One was available in a "Fat" version. But, according to Fender, UNIQUE FEATURES H/S/H routing, is standard on the Highway One. You could add a HB (Pearly Gates) later. Whatever you do, go play them all. Pick the one that you like. Don't try to analyze. Just pick the you LIKE. Dave Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael saulnier Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 HWY 1's are nice, but there are several noticable differences compared to the American Deluxe Fat Strat (ADFS). Besides the vintage noiseless pickups in the ADFS, (the "hotter" ones matched volume wise with the nice humbucker), you have locking tuners and the LSR nut... both of which make this guitar stay in tune better than ANY vibrato equipped guitar I've owned including Floyd Rose models. Plus, you get "premium" wood, and the vibrato bar is a "snap-in" one compared to the screw-in ones on the HWY 1 strat, I find this avoids ANY "slop" and is the best whammy bar solution Fender offers, imho. The HWY 1 has "vintage" hardware, which while classic" and certainly has been used by many players successfully, has the limitations for stability that all similarly configured ones have. If these differences matter to you, then I think it's WORTH the extra money to get the ADFS... if you don't need or want these features, then the HWY 1 may be a good choice. revolead asked about the "regular" pickups versus the Texas Specials. Basically the TS's are extra wound with wire to make them "hotter"... trying to emulate the "accidental" overwinding on the ones SRV had in his #1 strat. Keep in mind SRV DIDN'T use Texas Specials, his were a happy mistake in the way "normal" pickups were wound... I had a Lone Star Strat which had two TS's in the neck and middle and a Pearly Gates+ in the bridge. I found the TS's to be a bit hot and mid-rangy... some people really like that sound, others don't, finding it harder to get the "classic" strat sound... especially cleans... I agree with Dave the Dude... it's such a personal thing... you should try and see for yourself if you can. But I at least wanted to point out the differences for you to pay attention to. guitplayer I'm still "guitplayer"! Check out my music if you like... http://www.michaelsaulnier.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amund Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Originally posted by keano: I am looking for classic Fender Strat sound along with heaviness when needed for heavy duty rock. For me, the "Classic Fender Strat" sound is happening with the bridge and middle singlecoils together..... That sound can`t be had with a HB..... Amund 'We`re going to ruin a lot of records before we figure out the best way to use Pro Tools' Jack Joseph Puig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 ............. Just when you thought it was safe to go to the music store. Something tells me I'm gonna start looking for an American Deluxe Fat Strat. My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O'Shite Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 James- how many humbuckers does a man need? Get a full-bird triple-single-coil Strat', go with an American Deluxe axe with a single-coil in the bridge position. You'll love the tone you can't really get any other way, especially in contrast to the others in your stable (I'd say "harem", but your wife might take offense!) -k(the oppinionated bastard) Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael saulnier Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I hear what you're saying about an all single coil American Deluxe Strats... they are cool, but strangely, Fender didn't make the non-humbucker ones the same except for the humbucker. For example, the non-humbucker one doesn't have the LSR nut. To me, this is a MAJOR weakness. The LSR nut combined with the vibrato system is a great feature I wouldn't choose to be without. I don't think the conventional nut is as stable for returning to tune after bends... Plus, another difference is the fact that the humbucker equiped one also has the "hotter" single coils... (designed to match the output of the humbucker). The advantage I get from that is the output closely matches my humbucker guitars, so if live, I switch, I don't have to worry about resetting the volume on my pedals or amps... Sound wise, the humbucker Fender uses seems to be designed to sound like what you would want your "lead" pickup to be like... a bit brighter, ever so slightly louder, but NOT thin or overly brittle or piercing... It's great for overdriven tones for leads or rhythm. My brother has one of the 3 single coil ones, so I've had the chance to play them both fairly extensively... and I plan to stick with the "fat"... Of course, it's worth trying both to see which one is right for your tastes, (eventually it would be cool to have one of each), but since I only have one at the moment, I prefer the American Deluxe Fat Strat! Now, just to make the point that I'm not all "my guitar is the best"... I also have a Jimmy Vaughn signature strat. It's VERY vintage like, and I was playing it today for a couple of hours. I do like it alot, it does have more of a "vintage" sound, (compared to a more "modern" sound on the ADFS), and it's got all the vintage hardware, no locking tuners, vintage nut and so on... But if I was going to get ONE strat... it would be the ADFS... guitplayer I'm still "guitplayer"! Check out my music if you like... http://www.michaelsaulnier.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O'Shite Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hey, Guit'! I didn't know that the hum-sing-sing model and the triple-sing models were so different, I assumed that they were the same except for the p'ups. Also, I was primarily addressing James' particular situation (I assume ya got that Custom Plus?); if I was looking to buy another guit, and I have a similar little Gibsony thing going, I'd want to go with a Strat or Tele or similar axe with all singles, just for the variation. (LP w/ humbuckers, LP w/ soapbars, Strat-style w/ EMG hum-sing-sing p'ups... ) Thanks for the correction/"FYI", I concurr on the features you cite, they sound like great improvements! Too bad they don't offer the same thing with a good single at the bridge. -k Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Guitplayer- Both the LSR nut and hotter single coil pups in the neck and middle position sound like winners. I get frustrated when the guitars don't stay in tune... the Wolfgang is the only guitar I remember owning with a tremelo that stays in tune during hours of play and weeks of storage (both single string and overall key). If the AFDS has a similiar tremelo, then it gains serious points in my book. And, the "hotter" single coils appeal to me- it's nice to not have to make massive amp setting adjustments when changing guitars. The ADFS is gonna be the first Strat I try. Kevin- you're also right though, I should really get something different instead of another humbucker! (BTW- bought the custom I posted a thread earlier with some .mp3 clips) I'll try as many different strats as I can and eventually go with whatever sounds the best. The Tele will be simpler, no? I think there's only one of those to choose from. My wife walked into our den yesterday, looked around at guitars somewhat spread out over the room (I was cleaning and changing strings), turned to me and said without a smile, "Oh... I see we're collecting guitars. With the new ones you already had-" indicating the Wolfgang and LP Standard, "what do you need with these old ones?", looking with disdain at my ES-335 and the LP Custom with hardware that is has turned gold to green with age. I just shook my head, realizing this was one of those times it was probably better just to keep my mouth shut. Gonna have to move a few down to the basement studio. Or at least the cases. My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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