alcohol Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Ok, he's in a band and they play Blink 182 style music. He's using a Peavey Classic 30, but his leads aren't loud enough even though he's got it turned all the way up. He wants me to buy a used JCM-900 for just under $500. Is this a good buy? Are there new alternatives? "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexy Bastard Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Have everyone else in the band turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 Hell, they ain't a GB band. "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetboy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 geez, you get him a marshall 900 and they'll all turn up louder and just like the rest of us he'll be deaf by 40. one of the best lessons anyone ever gave me and my garage band way back when was from the pro musician father of our drummer. we all wanted to play as loud as possible, why? because we were teenagers... he talked to us about dynamics. we actually used some after that and it helped make our band sound a whole ot better. try and convince your son that dynamics of a song will help get the song over to everyone but the metalheads that only want to hear it louder. better for their band better for their ears, as a dad you have some vested interest in your sons hearing. plus it's a lot cheaper for you. not only that but if they practice at your house you won't have the cops stopping by everytime they practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 Well they practice in my house and I've been playing in R&R bands for 36 years. The room is effectively soundproofed and they don't need big amps for practice, just for playing out. I'm hip to dynamics. I'm a keyboard player and play in a band with a very good drummer and my guitarist plays through a Peavey Classic 30. It's just not really loud enough for the solos. My opinion. Now my son's band isn't really into playing that loud, but the amp does not really have enough power to overcome his drummer. I'm not a advocate of playing real loud, but it is Rock and Roll. So the kid wants a Marshall, hell I wanted a Marshall. He's gonna get one. I think a hundred watts will do. He said something about a Marshall DSL 100. Thanks for all the input. "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowbell Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Rock and Roll? Or rock?....... Man, I wish my parents have enough money to buy me whatever I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManInTheBox Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 the 100watt amp won't really be that much louder than the 30watt. Instead, go get hime the 4x12. If that doesn't please him, then go ahead and get the Jcm900. I think you can do better than $500 for a used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARL FISHER Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I have seen some good input here. I also have been playing an elecric guitar, in and out of bands for almost 30 years. Now at age 40, I have lost some of my high end hearing. I play a Peavey classic 100 (100watt) head through a peavey 4x12 cab with a 2x12 cab in the middle (yes, impediances are correct). Mmost practice I have done the 2x12 would be fine (amp on 2!! max!!) Playing out, or recording in a big auditorium, I use both cabinets. More speakers give More volume. Just get your son a 2x12 or 4x12 to put his amp on, and he'll still have the smaller combo for smaller stuff. It's also a cheaper way to go. Karl Skynyrd fan forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 Gentlemen, I will take your advice. I actually like the sound he gets out of the Peavey Classic 30. I had a friend who was living in my studio and one time he come home shit faced drunk and I told him he had to go. Well he had a fit and a drunken rage and smashed his Epiphone Les Paul copy on my Peavey Classic 30. Well the epiphone was demolished and the peavey had a red mark on its corner but wouldn't play. Now I never really did like the sound of the amp, but when I got it back from the shop it sounded really good. Better than when i bought it new. So I will get the bottom and try that thanks for the advice. Oh yeah, I wish my parents were as crazy as I am I really wanted a Hammond B3, instead I bought myself a Farfisa, which I sold for a Rhodes. No way I'm gonna put my kid through that. "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 BTW - if you go for the Marshall, let me suggest a 50 watter - a little easier to shake the power tubes. I'd definitely try hooking up to a 4x12 cab first, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 mic the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowbell Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Yep, Wewus got it. Buy a P.A, that'd be a better investment. Just mic it, stand behind the mixer and give him a boost when he wants to take a solo. No wait, that doesn't make sense. Anybody who plays Blink 182 style music doesn't play solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Any band, has got to have a PA, that amp he has is a great amp, put an SM57 in front of it and crank the PA until it's loud enough. Works everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strat 94 Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 Cowbell allen beat me to the joke. Anyways getting a PA is a great idea. MY band plugs everything into that and forgets the whole combo/cab/ head/??? thing. It is also less gear to clean up. If I was talking to the ice cream, I would be eating you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowbell Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 Hah! I was wondering if anybody would mention it. I was watching this thing on VH1 with Tom Petty, and his band plugs in headphones to the mixer while they rehearse so they don't bother the neighbors. This seemed like a really great idea to me once I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F2 Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 Most of the suggestions are spot on. But I'll add a few more alternatives. A blackface Bassman has a bit more substance than the Peavey. If he really wants a Marshall tone, it's very easy to convert to EL34's. There's also the possibility of using a Tube Screamer for the solos. The most efficient suggestion was the additional speakers. But be careful with the selection of the speakers. As with Marshall, four greenbacks are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted January 2, 2003 Author Share Posted January 2, 2003 For this band I have supllied the bass amp, the drums the PA, two guitars and two guitar amps. The bass player has just bought an amp suitable for live performance. My Trace Elliot GP7SM 130 wasn't cutting it. So the Trace elliot will remain in the studio. The PA is suitable for vocals, not for carrying other instruments and getting a new guitar amp or cab is an easier solution. When these guys get busier we'll get a bigger PA. For a kids first band I think they're pretty good. check out: futonpolice.com "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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