whitefang Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 In an earlier post, somebody used the phrase, "crappy kids bands". A forum member called Nollykins claimed to be almost offended. I wouldn't have blamed him if he was. But this isn't about passing judgement, just an attempt to assauge his feelings with a true story. This actually happened.... My Mother came of age in the '40's, in that her early teen years were spent living through WWll. I came of age in the '60's. Though now, all in this forum have developed more eclectic tastes in music, it is these formative years we hold dear in our musical hearts. So, when I was 16-17 years old, me and Ma would get in good-natured arguements over music. She would go on about how "Those singers scream all the words so you can't understand them! And when you can, they don't make any sense! Not like the poetic, passionate lyrics in the songs when I was young!" To which I'd counter, "You mean in songs like 'Hutsut Ralston onna wrilla-whah', or 'Marezedotes'?" And on it went. To be fair, I really DID like a lot of the big-band, swing era music. Still do! And Ma actually liked several Beatles tunes, and thought Stephen Stills was a "nice, clean cut kid." (HA!) Well, one day in the middle of one of our tussles, my Grandmother walked in. She looked at the two of us and asked, "What on Earth are you two bickering about, now?" My Mother said, "I'm just letting him know what I think of that swill kids call 'music' these days!" Grandma looked at my Mother and said "Gosh! I know what you mean! It's almost as bad as that garbage YOU used to listen to!" True story! Way to go, Grandma! Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoz65 Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Great story whitefang, I think that this will never change. The generation gap will always exist to some extent. Now in my mid 30's I still like new music and hope that I always will but when I listen to my old faves from my teenage years a heap of memories from those days come flooding back. It does seem that there are alot of younger people though, who like to listen to music from the 70's and 80's too so maybe some of the old barriers are weakening. Open your ears and your mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nollykin Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 True! incredibly true. I dont mind the music you guys listen to - I get along well with it. I dont even mind the beatles occasionally - and I certainly dont knock the tastes of all you lot - the fact was that (I cant remember who it was) was saying that ALL kids cant play guitar, and merely bash out power chords. Fine... a lot do.. even I do occasionally - but the fact reamains that there are a LOT of bands out there that are new, that have one hell of a lot of tricky guitar parts, that sound just as good and are just as difficult to play as the old stuff. Sure, marilyn manson, korn, and disturbed are the age old power chord bashers, but then theres devin townsend, syl, pantera, metallica... all of which play their guitars very well... I was just a bit hurt how I was placed in a box - but I guess I overreacted also - I'm not so naive as to think that whoever it was was saying EVERY kid is like that - now that I think about it he probably just forgot to say "of course there are exceptions"... but yeah. I guess I overreacted - but it hurt a bit. Its all good Know yourself and noone can hurt ya, eh? Nolly "Money, Bitchez and Cheese!" http://www.playspoon.com/nollykin/files/voxline.gif "I never thought about it, and I never stopped to feel - But I didn't want you telling me just what to think was real. And as simple as it comes, I only wanted to express- ...But with expression comes regret - and I don't want you hating me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarWolf Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Originally posted by snoz65: Great story whitefang, I think that this will never change. The generation gap will always exist to some extent. Now in my mid 30's I still like new music and hope that I always will but when I listen to my old faves from my teenage years a heap of memories from those days come flooding back. It does seem that there are alot of younger people though, who like to listen to music from the 70's and 80's too so maybe some of the old barriers are weakening. Open your ears and your mind! Ill agree with the gap weakening! theres a group of a bunch of white kids who loved rap on campus... guess what there into now? Black Sabbath YtseJam your Majesty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrmac Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 I think that the original post was referring more to the fact that club owners were hiring young amateur bands at low pay and it was eliminating work for professional musicians. This phenomenon has pro9bably been going on as long as club owners have existed, probably the second oldest profession. Well when i was in my teens I was in one of the "crappy kid bands" that older musicians probably complained about but we wanted to play so we ignored them. I suggest that young guys do the same these days, and have fun. One thing that seems different to me now is that I don't see much difference between the music of today and music of my generation, 30 years ago! Maybe I've just stepped back a bit and taken a larger view I hope. I like the spirit that today's music has just as much as the good stuff from the sixties but the old stuff has a lot of nostalgic connections of course which add to the fun. Mac Bowne G-Clef Acoustics Ltd. Osaka, Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nollykin Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Originally posted by gtrmac: I think that the original post was referring more to the fact that club owners were hiring young amateur bands at low pay and it was eliminating work for professional musicians. This phenomenon has pro9bably been going on as long as club owners have existed, probably the second oldest profession. Well when i was in my teens I was in one of the "crappy kid bands" that older musicians probably complained about but we wanted to play so we ignored them. I suggest that young guys do the same these days, and have fun. One thing that seems different to me now is that I don't see much difference between the music of today and music of my generation, 30 years ago! Maybe I've just stepped back a bit and taken a larger view I hope. I like the spirit that today's music has just as much as the good stuff from the sixties but the old stuff has a lot of nostalgic connections of course which add to the fun.Agreed, but that wasnt my point. I wasnt saying "but crappy kids bands are good!", I was saying "Not all kids like to play 'crappy kids band' material".... was just saying that a lot of kids, I for one (though im technically an adult in 2 weeks, heh...) like to play more than just power chords. I think people needed to reread my post... Nolly "Money, Bitchez and Cheese!" http://www.playspoon.com/nollykin/files/voxline.gif "I never thought about it, and I never stopped to feel - But I didn't want you telling me just what to think was real. And as simple as it comes, I only wanted to express- ...But with expression comes regret - and I don't want you hating me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george costanza Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 The more things change the more they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted June 24, 2002 Author Share Posted June 24, 2002 ...and everything old is new again! Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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