NOT Bolt Rifles Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 EDITORIAL: THE PEACE MOVEMENT ISN'T ABOUT PEACE By David Horowitz FrontPageMagazine.com | January 21, 2003 The "Peace" Movement Isn't About Peace Its about carrying on the lefts war against America. When your country is attacked, when the enemy has targeted every American regardless of race, gender or age for death, there can be no "peace" movement. There can only be a movement that divides Americans and gives aid and comfort to our enemies. In his speech to Congress after 9/11, the President said: "We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th Century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism." The so-called "peace movement" today is led by the same hate-America radicals who supported Americas totalitarian enemies during the Cold War. They marched in support of the Vietcong, the Sandinista Marxists and the Communist guerrillas in El Salvador. Before that they marched in behalf of Stalin and Mao. They still support Castro and the nuclear lunatic in North Korea, Kim Jong-Il. They are the friends in deed of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. What prompts American radicals to make common cause with such monsters? The answer is obvious: They share a common view of America as the "Great Satan." They believe that it is America not tyrants like Saddam Hussein that inflicts misery and suffering on the world. The targets of the 9/11 terrorists were Wall Street and the Pentagon. These were the targets of American radicals long before. In the perverse minds of the so-called "peace" radicals, America is the "root cause" of all the root causes that inspire the terrorists to attack us. "America is to blame for what is wrong in the world. The enemy is us." Today, as we battle the Axis of Evil which threatens us with weapons of mass destruction, these familiar mantras are rising on college campuses from coast to coast. Just as they did in the Cold War past. During the Cold War, the radical "peace" movement bullied right-thinking Americans into silence. Our government lost the ability to stay the course in the anti-Communist war. The result was the Communist slaughter of two-and-a-half million peasants in Indo-China after the divisions at home forced America to leave. Once again, the hate America left is attempting to silence right-thinking citizens. It is attempting to divide the home front in the face of the enemy. Even as we go to war. It is stabbing our young men and women in the back even as they step into harms way to defend us. It is attempting to paralyze our government again and prevent it from securing the peace. We cant afford to let this happen. [b]The time has come for those who love freedom and who appreciate the great bounties of this nation to stand up and be counted.[/b] "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams "I am a senior member, and thereby entilted to all the privileges and rights accorded said status" -- NBR
GZsound Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 I saw an interview on Hannity and Colms with one of the organizers of the the protests in Washington DC and David Horowitz. The protester admitted the protest was funded and supported by middle eastern muslim groups and with North Korean funds and communist group support. It is too bad there is such hate for our country from those who live here. I do not understand it and I guess I never will. Mark G. "A man may fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame others" -- John Burroughs "I consider ethics, as well as religion, as supplements to law in the government of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Jotown Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 You have got to be joking right? I saw a special on PBS about the march on Washington. (Not on the netrworks of course) Fact is the majority of the marchers were houswives, moms, professionals, college students, and people from various religious groups. I am against the war as are many on this forum. We do not hate America, in fact we love it enough to want to save it from itself. Are you saying that we are all funded by muslim terroritsts? How completely, totally, ridiculously absurd is that. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
not Cereal Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 this isnt the original bill foster's number, but still........... i am outa this thread
Wewus432 Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 That sounds like something that was written in the 1950's. What a load of crap. Let's be buddies though. [img]http://www.abc-kid.com/dolphins/pictures/tn_009_jpg.jpg[/img]
Jotown Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 Wewus, just keep you hands off of my dorsal fins, and outa' my slits. You peace-nick. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Dogfur Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 Speaking of peace activists, this is how the corporate media treats it: Here's a great clip of someone who's father was killed in 9-11 debating Bill O' Reilly. When confronted with the facts contrary to his opinions O' Reilly chokes and just starts insulting this guy, won't let him get a word in edgewise after he hears the invited guests views. Pathetic interview or performance from Bill O' Reilly, I am contacting his sponsors and demanding they pull advertising from this show. It is that pathetic. Rumour has it O' Reilly threatened the guy off the air afterword. I had to save it to desktop to view from Windows media player. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Glick_56.wmv [quote]Originally posted by GZsound@hotmail.com: [b]I saw an interview on Hannity and Colms with one of the organizers of the the protests in Washington DC and David Horowitz. The protester admitted the protest was funded and supported by middle eastern muslim groups and with North Korean funds and communist group support. [/b][/quote]Mark G., I can't prove this is inaccurate (I wouldn't put any lie past Hannity), but I do challenge you to provide a transcript or link to this supposed interview. It, like so many other "damn liberal" references probably doesn't exist. I am sad to see you think the millions of people who participate in anti-war activities are so hate-filled. I like to think they are filled with love of their country, and are willing to make a statement to save it. Woof!
NOT Bolt Rifles Posted February 8, 2003 Author Posted February 8, 2003 O' Reilly dispatched that little punk and his wild conspiracy theories rather well didn't he. I guess every issue has it's grassy knoll. :D :D "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams "I am a senior member, and thereby entilted to all the privileges and rights accorded said status" -- NBR
Jotown Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 Quoting Hannity and Colms, Bill O'rielly, or Rush Limbaugh is like prefacing your response with "Warning: Don't believe a word of this." This is the worst kind of modern day Mcarthyism. Paint everyone who disagrees with you as a Pinko, Commie, Liberal, now Terrorist. Please..... Sounds like a new millenium version of Archie Bunker. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this kind of divisive, distorted crap. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
NOT Bolt Rifles Posted February 8, 2003 Author Posted February 8, 2003 George F. Will: Highbrow peace rallies By George F. Will Published 2:15 a.m. PST Thursday, January 23, 2003 WASHINGTON -- After braving subfreezing temperatures here to urge the president to heed John Lennon ("Give peace a chance"), the 30,000 or 500,000 -- estimates differed; and how -- at last Saturday's antiwar demonstrations returned to their suburban homes or their hotels, where they could watch HBO's live telecast of a concert by the Rolling Stones, three of whom are older than the president. Mick Jagger once said he could not imagine being 45 and still singing "Satisfaction." He will soon turn 60, and so, it sometimes seems, will the unsatisfactory rhetoric of today's left. There were some new rhetorical wrinkles in the antiwar demonstrations, such as: "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer, Ein News Channel -- Fox News." (Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather and Peter Jennings have a combined audience of about 31.5 million each night. Brit Hume's "Special Report" on Fox has about 1.2 million.) But some chants were variations of oldies but goodies: "Hey, Bush, kiss my ass/We won't fight for the price of gas." (Today's U.S. average price of a gallon of regular is $1.45. The 1953 price, adjusted for inflation, was $1.95.) A Washington Post photograph of one of last Saturday's demonstrators showed an Illinois woman with "No Nukes" written on a face contorted by the rigors of struggling to prevent a war aimed at preventing Iraq from acquiring ... In a process without precedent, America has been, for more than a year, walking slowly -- never mind nonsensical headlines about the "rush to war" -- toward an optional war. Optional, that is, in the sense that although it is a defensible choice, it is a choice. War has not been unambiguously thrust upon us, as in 1861 by secession, or in 1917 by unrestricted submarine warfare, or in 1941 by surprise attack, or by aggression across international borders as in June 1950 or August 1990. Yet the left cannot mount a critique that rises above rock lyrics and name-calling. Perhaps that is because a serious critique would arise from conservative sensibilities, including respect for the law of unintended consequences (which are usually larger than, and contrary to, intended consequences). And the fact that a government's ability to control events anywhere is severely limited because a community, a nation and the world are like mobiles -- jiggle something here, and lots of things are set in motion over there. But the left also is inarticulate because nowadays it is little other than an amalgam of baby-boomer nostalgia and moral vanity. Nostalgia, that is, for the days, almost four decades ago, when its political vocabulary and moral vanity were formed. Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, announcing his opposition to the president's nomination of Judge Charles Pickering of Mississippi to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, said the Bush administration is trying to turn courts into "the sword that destroys" -- yes, destroys -- "basic civil rights." Schumer, who shares the New York stage with Sen. Hillary Clinton, must make up in shrillness what he lacks in star power, so he should not be considered guilty of sincerity in suggesting that the Bill of Rights and the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act are in peril. Schumer was 14 in 1964; hankering for the excitements of one's youth is only human. Besides, Schumer may be one of those baby boomers who believes that their existence, in all its perfection, is the great and final goal toward which the universe has been striving since the Big Bang. Still, it should not be too much to expect that senators could make their arguments without resorting to synthetic hysteria. Two Sunday's ago The New York Times' long lead editorial was an exercise in hyperventilation titled "The War Against Women." It argued -- actually, it asserted; the Times no longer argues, it hectors -- that the right to legal abortions is in "dire peril." The Times was understandably opaque about just how this frequently exercised right (at least 1.2 million times last year) to one of America's most common surgical procedures is going to perish. The Times regarding abortion, Schumer and liberals like him regarding "basic civil rights" and the left regarding war with Iraq -- all share an unarticulated, perhaps unacknowledged, but nonetheless discernable premise: Domestic freedom and international order are threatened by dark currents pulsing through the incorrigible American masses. These currents would engulf the world, were they not held at bay by small platoons of the virtuous -- the "peace movement," the courts and certain editorialists. These platoons are carrying the flame from the days of segregation and Vietnam, when the going was bad and only they -- or so they recall -- were good. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams "I am a senior member, and thereby entilted to all the privileges and rights accorded said status" -- NBR
NOT Bolt Rifles Posted February 8, 2003 Author Posted February 8, 2003 Wewus wrote: [quote] That sounds like something that was written in the 1950's. What a load of crap. Let's be buddies though. [/quote]I think you got your decade wrong there, buddy! "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams "I am a senior member, and thereby entilted to all the privileges and rights accorded said status" -- NBR
Rick K. Posted February 8, 2003 Posted February 8, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Jotown: [b]Quoting Hannity and Colms, Bill O'rielly, or Rush Limbaugh is like prefacing your response with "Warning: Don't believe a word of this."[/b][/quote]I don't understand this either. Can you please use [b]specific[/b] examples? This sounds like pure conjecture, but prove me wrong. Unless you meant to preempt it with IMO... Rick
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