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Tony Bennett

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Im sorry I just have to rant as Ive never had this complaint. I played with some people at a local club, they normally play there, I dont. Apparently the manager said that Im too hip, whatever the hell that means. I play seated at and RD-700SX and we played stuff from The Beatles, The Band, Simon & Garfunkle, you get the idea. I did the back up vocals and had a blast, I dont mind saying they were dead on. Im 220 pounds, 6 foot and have a beard, too hip! I only ever use piano, bass and organ soundsI did throw in some Clavinet on one song, that most have thrown him for a loop. Too Hip! Next Ill be too cool for school.
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Well, I'd rather be thought of as "too hip" as "too dumb"!

 

Maybe what the guy meant (sheer speculation of course) is that you know more about music than the average person who comes into the club. Which seems very strange to me... when I go to see my doctor or accountant or mechanic, I assume they know more about their field of expertise than me... not because I'm a moron, it's just they've studied it and I haven't. Ain't it the same with music? Or am I MISSING something?

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Originally posted by Tony Bennett:

Im 220 pounds, 6 foot and have a beard, too hip!

Wait. Are you too hip because of the way you look, the music you play, or something else?

 

Did you choose the music, or did the other people who've played there before?

 

Were you making passes at the sheep? :eek:

 

Is this guy serious?

 

I've been called a lot of things, but never too hip... Heck, that might be a good thing. :thu:

"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo
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Are you leaving out information for us? How do you know it was a complaint? Did the manager indicate your being too hip was something bad, or negative in some way? Do they want to get rid of you or have you play every night?

 

Or, did it mean you were showing up the other guys in the group, stealing the lime light? Are you replacing another keyboard artist, or are keys a new addition to the group? Let us know.

 

Lou

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To B-3 or not to B-3, that is the question.

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TB, take it as a compliment and keep doing your thing. :thu:

 

Hopefully, that will lead to more opportunities. Since you had a blast, it is all good. :cool:

PD

 

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy"

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Well, since english isn't my mother tongue, let's see what the Wikipedia has to say about "hip" :

 

Slang term, adjective meaning "fashionably current", referring to someone who is conversant with or deeply involved in a particular trend or subject. "Hip", like "cool", does not refer to one particular quality. What is hip is in constant change.

 

So they told you you're too fashionably current, too involved in a particular trend or subject, or too much in constant change. Although all this sounds pretty vague to me, I don't really see it as a bad thing. :)

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Originally posted by Eric Iverson:

Well, I'd rather be thought of as "too hip" as "too dumb"!

Absolutely! :D

 

Once, a club owner told me that my music was "too beautiful" for his place. I'm still trying to get it... :freak:

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Somebody once said to me and this does happen to musicians:

 

"You Got So hip you confused yourself!"

 

Funny Funny stuff.... I liked that and kinda understood it!

lb

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The club owner said basically "your not playing to my crowd". . . .

 

he probably wanted the latest from "Crib Death" or "Ozzie". . . .

 

might as well just bring in some raw samples, tune them all the way down till they sound like gravel and add a drum machine! This is of course the absolute upper range of the Pat Boone joke syndrom for those of us old enough to remember, well we got what we asked for ha!

 

It says alot about where things have gone in the arts in general (and more)...... It's actually all linked to the death of beauty..... hate to say this but just check out the porno sites.....

"What have they done to the earth, what have they done to our fair sister". . . .

 

All right, I'll stop that!

 

people are very confused and low brow these days!

 

blame it all on the movie "SuperFly" and

"Heavy Metal" from the '70's! Visual is the 21st century direction!

Shame really!

 

lb

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Cnegrad,

 

"You Got So hip you confused yourself!"

 

Takes a real Be-Bop musician to come up with that line (my teacher)!

lb

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Reminding me of how Miles once said to play bebop licks on Concierto de Aranjuez would make you sound like a "hip cornball".

 

Maybe the Hip Cornballs would be a good name for a band... especially since I'm originally from Iowa... Des Moines, the Oasis in the Cornfield.

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Dementedchord,

 

Hipper than hip is pretty much confused but happily lucky! When you reach that stage you start making the high pitched elf sounds that Kieth Jarret makes, that's when you know your in the "Happy Zone" (aka: hipper that hip)...

 

It's kinda like the "Buddist Flying Schools". I think they make the very same sound KJ makes when they take off into the cosmic wild younder.(elf whine/giggle)!

 

lb

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not to put KJ down, we all know he is singing with his line! He does sound like an elf to me though!

lb

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According to Tristanoites, Miles couldn't cut alot of Birds Be-Bop lines. So he invented fusion! Just one vectors idea not necessarily mine, just alittle consciecness raising....

 

don't shoot the messenger!

lb

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ok I'll stop that (Miles remark)... I'm in the mood to be a juvenile too!

 

Who had the 'Tower of Polka' remark last week?

 

that was funny too!

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yes it did! Curtis Mayfield God rest his SOUL!..but not an extremely hip effect on the inner city streets. . . . I think that(SF) and Shaft are credited with setting up the Urban Drug Scene as drug dealer hero syndrome we have today according to some circles!

 

And also the white suburban hiphop flipflop oddity of today's white utz! (not that there is anything wrong with that!). . . .

 

I like the rhythm thang as much as anybody!

And I all for people having something to bang up against! but things are pretty strange nowadays... (too hip remark!)

lb

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Ummmmm, excuse me... Mr. Bennett?

 

I have it on good authority that you are interested in changing your style. I have been informed that you are researching the possibility of trying something fashionably current. However, you are not exactly sure what this entails.

 

Is this correct?

 

Your neighbors have commented that you have begun to let your hair grow and spent quite a bit of your disposable income on your wardrobe. I believe that you know that much more is involved than this.

 

Checking up on your extracurricular activities, I've noticed that you are spending time with new friends and participating in the consumption of marijuana with a very high THC content. You have been photographed during leisure hours with the so called "Hippie set". :rolleyes:

 

In fact, since it has become important to you that you are seen in all the right places (and with all the right faces), of course you should be satisfied. Perhaps you should reevaluate your situation and realize that you have not yet reached your goals.

 

Just last week, you visited your psychiatrist in hopes of finding yourself and perhaps raising your level of consciousness. However, while you're striving to find the right path, as your friend, I think there is something you should know...

 

What's hip today, might become passe'.

 

Best regards,

 

Frank Sinatra :cool:

 

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Sorry. :rolleyes:Dave Pierce made me do it.

 

I apologize for that.

"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo
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Well what it came down to I believe is the other two guys playing are regulars who normally play in a foursome at the club. They generally tend to just get really drunk and sort of stammer through the songs. Believe it or not the idea behind their band was to never practiceAnyways, the singer also plays with me in a two piece project that is fairly polished, we all get along fine. To keep things interesting for me and some of our fans I thought it would be fun to ask the bass player from the foursome (who is also a talented drummer and a close friend) to play drums this gig with us. It turned out great and the audience loved it, people were there all night. I think the manager maybe thought I was treading on someones territory as it wasnt the normal line up. Maybe he has something against bands making it through a whole song or playing full sets. I guess I was just a bit taken back as Ive never been called hip, let alone too hip. Im a frumpy fellow and I would describe my playing as pretty or artsy if anything, I guess maybe thats a big change for him.
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