midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 I'm sorry, but I find this hilarious. No offence to our German and French members intended at all. I just found this to be the funniest remark and back handed appology I have ever heard! Rumsfeld Sorry for 'Axis of Weasels' Remark (2003-01-22) -- U.S. Secretary Defense Donald Rumsfeld apologized today for referring to France and Germany as an "Axis of Weasels." "I'm sorry about that Axis of Weasels remark," said Mr. Rumsfeld. "I didn't mean to dredge up the history France and Germany share of pathetic compliance with ruthless dictators." The Defense Secretary said he was "way out of bounds" with the comments. "I should have known better than to remind people that these two nations--which live in freedom thanks only to the righteous might of America, Britain and their allies--that these nations are morally and politically bankrupt, and have failed to learn the lessons of history," he said. "It really was an inappropriate thing to say--you know, the Axis of Weasels thing. I really should not have called them the Axis of Weasels. I think it's the 'Weasels' part that was most offensive...you know, when I said that France and Germany form an Axis of Weasels. Of course, I'm so sorry." Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 Come on...somebody else must have seen this. Back to the top. Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_dont_fret Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 What a schmuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Nice to see the intelligence level of those in charge of the largest military force in the world :rolleyes: :eek: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midimonk Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Gotta love politics,say anything and then retract it.all i can say is it takes one to know one. I cannot be bought, and I cannot be threatened. But if you put them both together then I'm your man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the appology more offensive than the original statement? Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timrocker Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 What's wrong with weasels? I kind of admire them for their craftiness and aerodynamic design. It's a compliment, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midimonk Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 upon reading it again,kinda out of it,the apology was a crafty way of putting them down again.Wonder who wrote the "words" for him? I cannot be bought, and I cannot be threatened. But if you put them both together then I'm your man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 I think that was pure Rumsfeld improv. Technically weasels are called pole cats in europe I think. Axis of pole cats does not have the zing as axis of weasels though. Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip McDonald Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 C'mon, he didn't really say that... did he??? Reality is getting difficult to grasp. Nothing's shocking. Nothing is non-believable. Maybe he really did say that - could be, probably not, but geez.. Guitar Lessons in Augusta Georgia: www.chipmcdonald.com Eccentric blog: https://chipmcdonaldblog.blogspot.com/ / "big ass windbag" - Bruce Swedien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 `...I come not to bury weasels, but to praise them...` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 Gotta quote the Simpsons here..."Marge don't discourage the boy, weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals...except the weasel". Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Worthington Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Chip McDonald: [b]C'mon, he didn't really say that... did he??? [/b][/quote]Of course not. It's a funny joke, but there's no way that's a real news article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 I thought it was a joke too, but it seems to be all over the internet (not that gives any validity) Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Yeah, i think it is satire actually. The problem is that reality is so close to satire of late it can be impossible to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 Yea, its a joke. Not on any credible news page. It was satire published by scrapleface.com Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not Cereal Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 gimee some wEE zzull! buuuh dee! [img]http://www.chattanooga.net/comedy/pauly2.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jode Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by midispaceho: [b]Yea, its a joke. Not on any credible news page. It was satire published by scrapleface.com[/b][/quote]Thanks for clarifying that, Midi; I was about to. It's so funny because it's so true - France and Germany behave as though they have completely forgotten the lessons taught by the failure of the League of Nations, the Versailles Treaty, the Kellogg-Briand pact, and the horror of Nazism. Funny how all those eastern European nations like the Czech Republic, which toiled under totalitarianism for much of the 20th century, are right in our corner when it comes to Iraq. I think I would consult their expertise on confronting tyranny above all; they know it when they see it. You'd think frickin' GERMANY would know better. "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtoledo3 Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by midispaceho: [b]Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the appology more offensive than the original statement?[/b][/quote]Very right! Bush and his cronies are the weasels! Don't WE owe France for our independence? Want mix/tracking feedback? Checkout "The Fade"- www.grand-designs.cc/mmforum/index.php The soon-to-be home of the "12 Bar-Blues Project" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Jode: [b]Thanks for clarifying that, Midi; I was about to. It's so funny because it's so true - France and Germany behave as though they have completely forgotten the lessons taught by the failure of the League of Nations, the Versailles Treaty, the Kellogg-Briand pact, and the horror of Nazism. [/b][/quote]Actually, my perception is that they are acting as though they have learned those lessons quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by GT3: [b]Don't WE owe France for our independence?[/b][/quote]You betchya, baby! France came to the rescue for US when we were still struggling to become a sovereign nation. We paid them back in WWII, but we still have to face the fact that we owe France for our independence. And that big, green statue they gave us. ;) https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Jeff the Weasel takes offense over this whole thing! :) - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarmenC Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by midispaceho: [b]I'm sorry, but I find this hilarious. No offence to our German and French members intended at all. I just found this to be the funniest remark and back handed appology I have ever heard! Rumsfeld Sorry for 'Axis of Weasels' Remark (2003-01-22) -- U.S. Secretary Defense Donald Rumsfeld apologized today for referring to France and Germany as an "Axis of Weasels." "I'm sorry about that Axis of Weasels remark," said Mr. Rumsfeld. "I didn't mean to dredge up the history France and Germany share of pathetic compliance with ruthless dictators." The Defense Secretary said he was "way out of bounds" with the comments. "I should have known better than to remind people that these two nations--which live in freedom thanks only to the righteous might of America, Britain and their allies--that these nations are morally and politically bankrupt, and have failed to learn the lessons of history," he said. "It really was an inappropriate thing to say--you know, the Axis of Weasels thing. I really should not have called them the Axis of Weasels. I think it's the 'Weasels' part that was most offensive...you know, when I said that France and Germany form an Axis of Weasels. Of course, I'm so sorry."[/b][/quote]LOL!!!!!!!!! Truth and humor... A great combo! C :wave: An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Berolzheimer Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 "France and Germany behave as though they have completely forgotten the lessons taught by the failure of the League of Nations, the Versailles Treaty, the Kellogg-Briand pact, and the horror of Nazism. " To the contrary, Jode, they remember all too well what it's like to have a greedy, megalomaniacal dictator come to power through questionable means, abrogate international treaties and civil rights, scapegoat a race of people and "pre-emptively" attack other soveriegn nations. They have learned first hand lessons that our country seems to have long forgotten. I say this as someone married to a German, with many European friends, they take these issues much more to heart than most Americans. Paul Berolzheimer Progenitor of 2 amazing sound sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jode Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 "To the contrary, Jode, they remember all too well what it's like to have a greedy, megalomaniacal dictator come to power through questionable means, abrogate international treaties and civil rights, scapegoat a race of people and "pre-emptively" attack other soveriegn nations." So their excuse for giving Saddam a pass is... what? "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Berolzheimer Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Nobody said anything about giving Saddam a pass. There's a lot of ground between giving him a pass and attacking his country outright. One must remember, also, that attacking his country is very different than attacking him. Any military actions would have far more effects on the people of Iraq than they would have on him personally. So basically we'd be punishing & killing the people that we accuse him (correctly, I'm sure) of oppressing. Our previous attacks resulted in the deaths of over a million folks, directly & indirectly, yet SH remains a wealthy, powerful, healthy dictator. How much money did we spend then, and how much will we spend now, that could otherwise go to feeding, housing & educating people, rather than killing them? Paul Berolzheimer Progenitor of 2 amazing sound sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianT Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Anybody who thought this was a real story for more than 2 seconds is hereby prohibited from ever taking themselves seriously again. Sheesh, guys. Next time, try not to let your hatred of the politicians you disagree with cause your brains to melt. Regards, Brian T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by BrianT: [b]Anybody who thought this was a real story for more than 2 seconds is hereby prohibited from ever taking themselves seriously again. Sheesh, guys. Next time, try not to let your hatred of the politicians you disagree with cause your brains to melt. [/b][/quote]I'm sorry, but I still contend that Rumsfeld is fully capable of making asinine comments such as this. This satire IS based on comments and attitudes which are real, that's why it is satire and not simply humor. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/americas/view/30624/1/.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip McDonald Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Rumsfeld has already shown a lack of tact and judgement with the "old Europe" remark; the whole administration seems to favor an old school John Wayne attitude in making inadvertant gaffes. Plausible. I suppose you don't remember "We start bombing Moscow in five minutes"... Guitar Lessons in Augusta Georgia: www.chipmcdonald.com Eccentric blog: https://chipmcdonaldblog.blogspot.com/ / "big ass windbag" - Bruce Swedien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by BrianT: [b]Anybody who thought this was a real story for more than 2 seconds is hereby prohibited from ever taking themselves seriously again. Sheesh, guys. Next time, try not to let your hatred of the politicians you disagree with cause your brains to melt. Regards, Brian T[/b][/quote]Straight up. American politics is on an inexorible path towards the surreally bizarre, yes. But we're a good 10-20 years away from the point where the sitting SecDef could actually make such a statement. The only thing in this thread that took me by surprise was that it wasn't a The Onion article. When I first read it I just assumed it was from The Onion. It was funny as hell though. --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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