Udey Hussein

[BP3]

Does Udey Hussein's (Saddam's son) statement that "9/11 will look like a joke" if the US attacks Iraq give a clear indication that Iraq [b]does[/b] possess the very weapons that they deny having? Please try to stick to the question. (I know, not much chance of that :rolleyes: )

[michael saulnier]

Udey takes after Saddam in the amount of "bluster" he generates. Remember that Saddam said Desert Storm would be the "mother of all battles"... and since the war has consistantly talked about their "glorious victory"... So, it's hard to take Udey seriously. That said, it confirms that NO tactic is beyond them. They would happily kill Americans if it served their purposes and was in their power to do it. No hesitation, no regrets. Nice guys. guitplayer

[KenElevenShadows]

I don't know that it necessarily does support it. As the previous person said, there is quite a lot of bluster. It's basically thumbing their nose at the U.S., and doesn't support or negate Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, in my opinion. BTW, I am reading a fascinating book by Dr. Patel called "The Arab Mind". Having traveled extensively through Morocco, it explains a lot of the frequent polarized behavior that I saw (veru calm vs. sudden, quick frenzied or excited behavior), as well as a lot of other things. One of the interesting points of the book is the tendency of someone who is Arab to exaggerate, as they tend to often lace their speech (especially world leaders, as even the Western powers are prone to do!) with emotionally stirring rhetoric, more so than many other languages. Ddr. Patel noted that Arabic tends to be a far more emotionally stirring language than others, something that definitely supports my observations of Moroccan speech. The book is very interesting, and illustrates the large difference between the languages, culture, and thought processes of Westerners and Arabs. So far, from my experience, Arabic people tend to behave quite differently from other Muslim people that I have spent a lot of time with (Kashmiri Muslims, Indian Muslims in Calcutta and elsewhere, Indonesian Muslims, and Iranian Muslims, the latter of whom I live amongst and work with). I mention this because I do feel that it supports and partially explains a lot of the bluster and exaggerated thumbing of nose that the Husseins have exhibited.

[realtrance]

"Dr. Patel" is kind of the Indian equivalent of "Dr. Smith" (Danger, Will Robinson!) -- do you have a fuller name reference? Thanks! rt

[DC]

I don't see it as a reference to weapons of mass destruction. I see it as a reference to pissing off the Arab world if we attack and terror instances IN OUR COUNTRY will escalate dramatically as a result. Let's face it, a huge chunk of the world sees us as arrogant bullies as it is and attacking Iraq unprovoked will only fuel this fire. Look at all the proud suicide bombers lined up and ready in that part of the world.

[videoeditor1]

Tinder, I did a lot of "Middle Eastern" current affairs/history for high school & college (I'm not that old! ;) ). I've been following two of Saddam's sons ever since... At the very least, he's right. The scope of damage any willing, and prepared unit can unleash on the USA is very broad, and very damaging. This is particularly so because we have so much to "lose". Do I believe they have nuclear weapons? No. Do they have the means of making life difficult, if not unbearable. Consider this: 1. Virginia sniper. 2. Anthrax scare. These events pretty much consumed the resources of local and even state resources. Imagine, two years later after 9/11 and these ... different groups can't arrive at a consensus on what to build at WTC?

[Jotown]

The history books in Iraq state that Iraq won the Persian Gulf war. If Saddam believes that, well....... :confused:

[GZsound]

Let's face it, a huge chunk of the world sees us as arrogant bullies as it is and attacking Iraq unprovoked will only fuel this fire. Look at all the proud suicide bombers lined up and ready in that part of the world. "Attacking Iraq unprovoked"? As I sit here watching the news about another circumstance of Iraq firing on our planes in the "no fly" zone and listen to the reports of the money Sadam is paying the suicide bomber families in Palastine I wonder exactly how you define "unprovoked". I believe we attacked Iraq in 1991 because Sadam invaded Kuwait. He accepted a cease fire and agreed to a whole slew of UN conditions..all of which he has broken repeatedly, not even counting setting all the oil wells on fire on the way out the door. (Sierra Club supporters take note). We are not "starting" a war with Iraq. We are going to finish the war with Iraq. Again, I ask, how do you define unprovoked? Ban Liberal dogma.

[johnnie red]

Without knowing the context of the statement, "9/11 will look like a joke" means the death and destruction caused by the US through war will far surpass the death and destruction from the 9/11 attacks. This most certainly is true. I find it highly doubtful he was threatening to use weapons of mass destruction, especially at a time when Iraq's biggest hope is to convince the international community that they don't have them, and the US is playing bully.

[Jotown]

[quote]Ban Liberal dogma [/quote]Ban Conservative Propaganda! And ban the Donna's while your at it. :D

[GZsound]

Conservative Propaganda? I believe the truth is the truth. I think Sadam attacked Kuwait. I think the Kuwaiti's asked for international help. I do believe they recieved that help. I am fairly certain Sadam agreed to a cease fire and to certain UN imposed conditions. If I am correct, it seems he has been firing at us for the last 12 years. And I do believe he has failed to honor the agreement he made with the UN. I seem to remember something about him throwing out the UN inspectors during Mr. Clintons watch. And now America is the bully? An attack on him now is unprovoked? We have been attacking him almost daily (after he shoots at us) for the last 12 years!! Don't any of you watch the news? Blaming America and having sympathy for this butcher is the liberal dogma part. It just must feel terrible to have to live in and benefit from such a terrible country as America. Ban Liberal Dogma

[Mark V]

With reference to another thread about a revolting sandwich spread which is popular in this part of the world, one of the great thinkers,Edward de Bono concluded that Middle Eastern people are excitable and often prone to rash thoughts mainly due to a lack of Vitamin B in their diet.So it could be a idea to pack Vegemite instead of warheads into your cruise misslies,if all else fails they'll think you guys a crazier than they are and surrender. And with that I'm going to make Vegemite sandwiches for supper.

[Jotown]

[quote]Originally posted by GZsound@hotmail.com: [b]Conservative Propaganda? I believe the truth is the truth. Ban Liberal Dogma[/b][/quote]Everybody thinks that their version of the truth is the only one. That's the problem. Propoganda and Dogma are bad for the soul of America. So ban Conservative Propaganda and Liberal Dogma. That way, we might even be able to figure out what the truth actually is.