Cowfingers Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 i was just having a discussion with some of the guys in my band about what area of music hasnt been developed to its full extent, or failing that what area could be developed to almost (dare i say it!) invent a new genre. nobody could really come up with anything too convincing. i guess the 60's was an exploration of what electric instruments were capable, then the 80's had the electronic shit going on. what do people think is cutting edge now? samplers and loops? anyone else? Visit my band : www.neonfleacircus.net or www.myspace.com/neonfleacircus
Tedster Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I think there will always be new music...however, as to new genres...I dunno. I suppose anything's possible. I think that some of the world music hasn't been fully exploite...uh...[i]explored[/i] yet. So perhaps in the future we'll see a Dr. Dre clone doing something with a Ravi Shankar clone. Who knows? But there is no doubt tons of world music... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine"
Jotown Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]» whats left to play that hasnt been done before? [/quote]Anything new or original. Any thing that is passionate and thought provoking. Anything that can capture the imagination of the listening audience. That's all you have to do. :rolleyes: Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Steve LeBlanc Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I think Indian music should be more popular in the west...I find it's a real pleasant change listening to it...there are a lot of styles within that context also. It's pretty common to borrow scales/melodies from Indian music but I think the rhythms could be used along with Western feels more. There are such wonderful patterns and they're so exact. I know people are doing this...Indian artists are definitly incorporating Western ideas but I think there's more room for exploration there. http://www.youtube.com/notesleb
ragwing Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 What's out there? What's fresh? What musical style gives me a woody straight down into my boot? If you even have to ASK this question, you've got writer's block. You are in a creative rut. So here's what sparks MY plug: Bulgaria wedding band music. Yeah, go ahead and laugh. Then see if you can cut it. You can't. It makes Billy Cobham look like he's been playing nursery rhymes all his life. You can't rock that hard. Unless you're a natural in 13/8. -ragwing "Like, dude, once you fly a hang glider, you'll always look up to see who's skying out" -Leonardo Da Vinci, if he had been a '70s hair farmer hippie
Jode Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 There are only twelve notes in the Western equal-tempered scale, and they've all been played before. You should give up and kill yourself. "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul
Jotown Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Jode: [b]There are only twelve notes in the Western equal-tempered scale, and they've all been played before. You should give up and kill yourself.[/b][/quote]Ah..... but doing something original, unique, and compelling with those 12 notes is the key. And that is also what separates MOZART , from moe's art. Remember; There are only 26 letters in the alphabet, yet people write original ideas every day. :o :o :o :o Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Steve LeBlanc Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 um no Jotown...there are 12 notes. :) Fairly easy mistake to make for a guitarist I guess but a piano player would never...well the more I think about it, how did you make that mistake? :D :D :p :thu: http://www.youtube.com/notesleb
Steve LeBlanc Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I post the following link not to mock you ;) ...but because it's a cool, interesting page: [url=http://www.skytopia.com/project/scale.html]12 notes[/url] http://www.youtube.com/notesleb
Jeebus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Jotown: [b] [quote]» whats left to play that hasnt been done before? [/quote]Anything new or original. Any thing that is passionate and thought provoking. Anything that can capture the imagination of the listening audience. That's all you have to do. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]See my trip-hop thread. Massive Attack is paving the way.
Jotown Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Stephen LeBlanc: [b]um no Jotown...there are 12 notes. :) Fairly easy mistake to make for a guitarist I guess but a piano player would never...well the more I think about it, how did you make that mistake? :D :D :p :thu: [/b][/quote]C (1) C# (2) D (3) D# (4) E (5) F (6) F# (7) G (8) G# (9) A (10) A# (11) B (12) My bad. I stand corrected. Too much coffee not enough sleep. :o Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Salyphus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 There are an infinite number of notes on a guitar ;)
Salyphus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Jotown, you might want to think that one through again ;) (don't forget, an open string on a guitar is fret zero)
Bob Keelan Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I've been asking myself this very question for the last 35 years :p bob
not Cereal Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 1. c 2. c# 3. d 4. d# 5. e 6. f 7. f# 8. g 9. g# 10. a 11. a# 12. b your an idiot!
KHAN Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [b] C[/b] (1) [b]C# [/b] (2) [b]D [/b] (3) [b] D#[/b] (4) [b]E [/b] (5) [b] F[/b] (6) [b] F#[/b] (7) [b]G [/b] (8) [b]G# [/b] (9) [b] A[/b] (10) [b]A# [/b] (11) [b] B[/b] (12) [b] [/b] [b] [/b] [b] [/b] [b] [/b] So Many Drummers. So Little Time...
KHAN Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 COASTER, I ALWAYS KNEW YOU WERE A GENIUS :D So Many Drummers. So Little Time...
patrick_dont_fret Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I don't think 80s synth-hop trippin' swingin' jazzin' rockin' bluegrass hasn't been done yet. I think I'll lead the way, then.
Salyphus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by patrick_dont_fret: [b]I don't think 80s synth-hop trippin' swingin' jazzin' rockin' bluegrass hasn't been done yet. I think I'll lead the way, then.[/b][/quote]Doesn't Phish play like that sometimes?
Franknputer Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 There are more than 12 notes, ya know. An Octave is a valid interval of 2 different notes. If it were the same note, then it would be a unison. There are only 12 letter names used to name notes, divided amongst intervals so that repetition occurs on pitches with a mathematical relationship of approximately 2 to 1. So there. :D
patrick_dont_fret Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Sal ©: [b] [quote]Originally posted by patrick_dont_fret: [b]I don't think 80s synth-hop trippin' swingin' jazzin' rockin' bluegrass hasn't been done yet. I think I'll lead the way, then.[/b][/quote]Doesn't Phish play like that sometimes?[/b][/quote]Pretty much, but without all the blugrass and hop. But they are definitely trippin and rockin.
Salyphus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 They might even have snuck some bluegrass and hop in there some of the times I've seen 'em play. Or maybe I was just stoned :eek: :)
KHAN Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 'There are Billions and Billions of notes'. [img]http://admiralty.pacific.net.hk/~paulchui/sagan.jpg[/img] So Many Drummers. So Little Time...
patrick_dont_fret Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Sal ©: [b]They might even have snuck some bluegrass and hop in there some of the times I've seen 'em play. Or maybe I was just stoned :eek: :) [/b][/quote]Possibly so, they play with different people alot. I've never seen them live, but I've seen Panic live, and they play some pretty cool stuff.
Botch. Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 SWING METAL!!! I posted this about a year ago, and someone actually had an example (I'm sorry I can't remember who it was). I love the way my foot can't stop tappin' with a big band drummer, it's got that swing. And I love the crunch of a great metal guitarist, makes even a keyboardist want to do air guitar. Mix the two, get the right sales pitch (big tits, bright colors, max compression, and hit the airwaves at mealtime) and this could be the NEXT BIG THING!! I actually wrote about this to Frank Zappa (the only current artist who could pull it off) but he went and died on me before he could try it. :cry: Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will www.puddlestone.net
Raymar Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Music hasn't been developed to its fullest potential. This is a topic that should never come up for people who use synths and samplers. You've got a few eternities worth the sound to explore and a few thousand years of music to drawn on from around the globe. Just turn on your imagination and give it a spin around the block. You shouldn't chase after the past or pin your hopes on the future.
audiofreek Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I think the difficulty lies with the listener,there are very few people willing to "think outside the box" of what is currently hip.It takes alot of guts and vision for an artist to risk his/her carreer on some kind of world beat/new age/throw back pop thing,when record companies and radio can't fit it into a neet little package. That's what is so great about live music,you can get people to listen to things they would otherwise turn off,but by the end of the tune they are either captivated or decapitated.
Jotown Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]captivated or decapitated. [/quote]What's that again? :) Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Chip McDonald Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Botch.: [b]SWING METAL!!! I posted this about a year ago, and someone actually had an example (I'm sorry I can't remember who it was). [/b][/quote]That would be me. [b]the two, get the right sales pitch (big tits, bright colors, max compression, and hit the airwaves at mealtime) and this could be the NEXT BIG THING!! [/b] If I had a dime for everything that I thought was going to be THE NEXT BIG THING and it actually came true I'd be rich. People don't think big or deep enough. I can *see* it - but only if done without being a gimmick. The constituent parts are out there, but no one will do it right. It will either be done in a cheesy GIT/Shrapnel way, or a faux retro-swing scene thing, which is a gimmick. Somewhere, there's a couple of guitar players with the appropriate frame of mind (like myself), bass player, drummer - maybe you front the whole thing with the Cliche Big Breasted Hot Chick Singer (a bird, but not to be confused with the Great Yellow Breasted Sparrow or some such). The trick would be to NOT dress up in some silly outfits - just be normal, but *rock*, and *swing* at the same time. It would be so cool, it crosses over so well and no one has done it yet. I suppose no one "hears" it. Great potential for cheese, though, and no doubt some label will inevitably throw something together and probably get it wrong and ruin it forever. Oh well. Guitar Lessons in Augusta Georgia: www.chipmcdonald.com Eccentric blog: https://chipmcdonaldblog.blogspot.com/ / "big ass windbag" - Bruce Swedien
Salyphus Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 I'm in, I've got the Freddie Green/James Hetfield thing nailed :thu: :D
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