eevilteddie Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Hey.. just discovered this forum.. cool one!! could u help me with this..: i used to jamm around and play with bands and they always asked me to play according to cds.. so, i've pretty much copied at least 85% the exact parts in every songs.. and now, i'm far far away from where i was b4 and here, they do a lot of 'on-the-spot' improvisations - both sections and solo.. and it's really really diffiicult for me to cope with tat.. tried my best to prac more improvisations.. but just not enough.. any idea how can i improve my impro faster?? ^_^ thanx.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 You say you tried to practice improvisations, can you tell us more how you did that? For instance, did you practice against a backing track? Or maybe learn somebody else's improvisation note for note? Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Perhaps it would help if you provided more info (this seems to be a common issue with newbies... wonder why that is?). For example, what style of music are you playing? It's not going to help you at all if we suggest a jazz play-along system (such as the Jamey Aebersold series ) if you're trying to sit in with pure rock or country players. The more you tell us, the easier it is for us to help out... Cheers, SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 i've recorded some backings using my keyboard.. as in bass (few grooves/chord proggresions) and drum and just play over it.. n it just sounded terrible.. tried to plan them, but it just doesnt work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Originally posted by eevilteddie: ...they do a lot of 'on-the-spot' improvisations - both sections and solo.. and it's really really diffiicult for me to cope with tat.. tried my best to prac more improvisations.. but just not enough.. any idea how can i improve my impro faster?? ^_^ thanx.. There's only one way; record your gigs. When you get the time, practice against playback of the recordings. Next gig, record it again & practice against that performance. Repeat this. Good luck, Tom "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 well.. i sort of play everything they give me.. so, so far we've played a few standard jazz.. and some rock stuffs.. and some acid jazz too.. and the latest, we've played some songs by phish.. easy chords.. but again, disaster!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 thanx tom.. will try tat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 disaster.. sound was completely unbalanced.. used two keyboards.. and they had to pan them - put them in each speaker.. i had no monitor.. i cant hear myself!! http://www.youtube.com/?v=6chubu3Yr1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 disaster.. iBam-stirng cheese incident http://www.youtube.com/?v=6chubu3Yr1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Wyvill Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I don't think thats a disaster, but just like in my band, the keys are way too hot (or the guitars are too low or something) I need to invest in a monitor. I also think that the singers need an instrument (esp in a jam band where there are so many people on stage) Even a tamborine would help them to look more occupied. Just my 2 cents http://www.myspace.com/electricmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 any idea how can i improve my impro faster Yo, eevil one in a teddie. If that video link is you, then you really are fine. I would not change a thing. It sounds like you are meeting, if not exceeding expectations, for this band. If you want to take your chops to a higher degree, then just practice like the dickens, listen to new music and keep on playing! It sounds like you have a basic handle on what is needed to pull of the jam band genre. You might also benefit from Ray Manzerek. Check out my recent post on this. Regards, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 yo eric!! thanx.. seriously, i am not ready for stuffs like this.. like just impromptu, u know.. i didnt even know wat chords are we supposed to use for impro.. i didnt even know tht we were supposed to transpose a tone up.. heck i didnt even know tht i have to impro..!! damn!! i shudnt be saying this, but i think we need to seriously change the singers.. they r really makin us mad...!! they dun prac, they come to practices late.. and u think they r any good?? erm...... ^_^ anyway, i still think tht my impro doesnt have a proper structure or fine groove, if u know wat i mean.. just dun know how to prac impro the right way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Just buy yourself a CYLON VOCODER and all will be good. Regards, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 seen in other threads.. wassup wit u and vocoders, anyway?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 i'll buy them if i have proper job and income.. hehehe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I hate vocoders! We recently had a visit from a vocoder enthusiast that made us all hate them even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 hahaha.. since u hate them, i'll hate them too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 DOMO ORIGATO. MISTER ROBOTO. DOMO. http://www.tecr.com/galactica/cylons/cylon_silver.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 ooooooookaaay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Fortner Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Yo, Teddie, Welcome to the realest keyboard place in the universe. We have plenty of bandwidth here, or at least enough that you don't have to write as though you're text messaging on a cellular phone. Your playing shows that you can stretch out, so please, do so with your prose as well, and hang around awhile. You're in good hands. Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 You sound fine. If you feel that you need to improve, study the people you want to sound like. Three suggestions: - Write silence into your jams and arrangements. - Play in different ranges/dynamics to emphasize whether you are leading or accompanying. - Try to get a monitor situation that you are comfortable with. If you are unhappy, you can't play your best. I'm listening to this while typing and totally enjoying it. Very musical. I'm glad you are here. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevilteddie Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 thank you soooo much!! i'm deeply touched.. hahaha.. finally i found sumtin tht i wud be looking forward to do after classes.. reading forums.. thank you again!! really appreciate it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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